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"Rape victim gets 200 lashes 15/11/2007 14:08 - (SA) # Mecca mosque thief loses hand # Saudi beheaded for murder # 'Religious police should die' Riyadh - A court in the ultra-conservative kingdom of Saudi Arabia is punishing a female victim of gang rape with 200 lashes and six months in jail, a newspaper reported on Thursday. The 19-year-old woman - whose six armed attackers have been sentenced to jail terms - was initially ordered to undergo 90 lashes for "being in the car of an unrelated male at the time of the rape", the Arab News reported. But in a new verdict issued after Saudi Arabia's Higher Judicial Council ordered a retrial, the court in the eastern town of Al-Qatif more than doubled the number of lashes to 200. A court source told the English-language Arab News that the judges had decided to punish the woman further for "her attempt to aggravate and influence the judiciary through the media". Saudi Arabia enforces a strict Islamic doctrine known as Wahhabism and forbids unrelated men and women from associating with each other, bans women from driving and forces them to cover head-to-toe in public. Last year, the court sentenced six Saudi men to between one and five years in jail for the rape as well as ordering lashes for the victim, a member of the minority Shi'ite community. But the woman's lawyer Abdul Rahman al-Lahem appealed, arguing that the punishments were too lenient in a country where the offence can carry the death penalty. In the new verdict issued on Wednesday, the Al-Qatif court also toughened the sentences against the six men to between two and nine years in prison. The case has angered members of Saudi Arabia's Shi'ite community. The convicted men are Sunni Muslims, the dominant community in the oil-rich Gulf state. Lahem, also a human rights activist, told AFP on Wednesday that the court had banned him from handling the rape case and withdrew his licence to practise law because he challenged the verdict. He said he has also been summoned by the ministry of justice to appear before a disciplinary committee in December. Lahem said the move might be due to his criticism of some judicial institutions, and "contradicts King Abdullah's quest to introduce reform, especially in the justice system." King Abdullah last month approved a new body of laws regulating the judicial system in Saudi Arabia, which rules on the basis of sharia, or Islamic law"

11/16/2007 2:07:34 PM

DUH, she never shoulduv put her self in that situation.

200 lashes is fuckin timeout for something like this

11/16/2007 2:08:18 PM

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"was initially ordered to undergo 90 lashes for "being in the car of an unrelated male at the time of the rape", the Arab News reported."

11/16/2007 2:08:22 PM

stuff isnt fair across the seas.
its nothing new.

there have been many stories about this type of stuff

11/16/2007 2:09:25 PM

'fair' is relative to culture

11/16/2007 2:09:54 PM

11/16/2007 2:10:43 PM

to us it isnt fair.

and if you ask any country, except for the ones in the middle east. im sure they will all agree.

but she probably did something stupid to deserve this.

[Edited on November 16, 2007 at 2:11 PM. Reason : ]

11/16/2007 2:10:54 PM

i think the far east would side with this

11/16/2007 2:11:40 PM

GODDAMNMOTHERFUCKINGSONOFABITCH!!!!!!!

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"but she probably did something stupid to deserve this."

Fuck you!

[Edited on November 16, 2007 at 2:13 PM. Reason : .]

11/16/2007 2:11:43 PM

dont know about far east.. but are men and women allowed to walk/talk/stand next to each other?

if there is no law against it, then this would not happen in the far east.

11/16/2007 2:12:52 PM

in some cultures the age of consent is 12
its all realtive

11/16/2007 2:13:41 PM

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"six armed attackers"

no wonder it was so hard to get away. they could hold her arms and legs and still bitchslap her.



damn spiderpeople

11/16/2007 2:14:55 PM

i thought black on black crime was bad, but the middle takes the cakes for self-genocide

11/16/2007 2:17:45 PM

link?

11/16/2007 2:17:50 PM

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"Fuck you! "

why, you think she isnt at fault?
i agree its a stupid rule.

but stuff doesnt fly in some places.

when the rules say you cant be with men that you are not either married to or family, then you cant be with them. no Q asked. yeah it sucks she got raped and all. but its one of those things.

if you are drunk and driving. and someone hits you. you are still getting in trouble. you "didnt do anything wrong"...

its pretty much the same way.

might not seem fair

[Edited on November 16, 2007 at 2:18 PM. Reason : ]

11/16/2007 2:18:12 PM

sounds like something that could happen at bob jones university.

11/16/2007 2:18:21 PM

w.t.f.

11/16/2007 2:19:13 PM

no matter how she got around them, she was around them and law forbids that so she is going to get an ass whipping and go to jail.

11/16/2007 2:19:33 PM

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"but its one of those things."

No, It's never one of those things.

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"if you are drunk and driving. and someone hits you. you are still getting in trouble. you "didnt do anything wrong"... "

That law makes sense

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"might not seem fair"

Seem?

[Edited on November 16, 2007 at 2:21 PM. Reason : .]

11/16/2007 2:20:59 PM

IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT LEAVE IT!

11/16/2007 2:23:05 PM

Who the fuck are you talking about?

11/16/2007 2:23:55 PM

I bet she was showing her ankles off what a tramp

she was totally asking for it

11/16/2007 2:24:05 PM

it's a religion of "she was asking for it"

and no, im not shitting you

ok, not so much religion, as region/society

11/16/2007 2:24:12 PM

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"Seem?"

its a whole different world over there.

if you thought every country runs like the US, then you have been hiding somewhere.

11/16/2007 2:24:49 PM

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"its a whole different world over there."

And you seem to be so at peace with this

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"if you thought every country runs like the US, then you have been hiding somewhere."

That's exactly what I think

[Edited on November 16, 2007 at 2:26 PM. Reason : .]

11/16/2007 2:25:23 PM

and people think we/they have it bad in america

11/16/2007 2:25:34 PM

^^^ thats exactly why i don't plan on abroad traveling

[Edited on November 16, 2007 at 2:26 PM. Reason : asdfa]

11/16/2007 2:25:46 PM

So pretty much if you get raped in Saudi Arabia don't report it because you are gonna get fucking whipped like a slave then thrown in prison.

This seems like a policy that will certainly deter immoral and sinful behavior.

11/16/2007 2:28:24 PM

isn't Bush all buddies and shit with the royal family of Saudi Arabia?

I don't think I'd be buddies with someone who runs their country like this

11/16/2007 2:29:42 PM

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" And you seem to be so at peace with this "

at peace?

well not really.

but im not getting all pissed off about it because i know what the deal is there because its been discussed in 2-3 classes i took in college.

im not getting into it, but there really is no excuse for not knowing the law. yeah you might not know the WHOLE law, but thats where it gets you in trouble.

luckily here in the US. we have a system for all of that.

11/16/2007 2:30:02 PM

Damn republicans.

11/16/2007 2:30:23 PM

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"So pretty much if you get raped in Saudi Arabia don't report it because you are gonna get fucking whipped like a slave then thrown in prison. This seems like a policy that will certainly deter immoral and sinful behavior."

the reason is because she was with men that she was not either married to or family with.

according to them, both parties broke the rules.

plus, over there they do not look to highly on women.

11/16/2007 2:32:46 PM

Lifetime is going to make such an awesome movie about this.

11/16/2007 2:34:41 PM

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"Lahem, also a human rights activist, told AFP on Wednesday that the court had banned him from handling the rape case and withdrew his licence to practise law because he challenged the verdict."

11/16/2007 2:35:04 PM

anywhere else. im sure it would fly and we could goto court.

thats why i dont like the middle east. even as one of those people. i really dont like that place. except for my own country.

11/16/2007 2:36:52 PM

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"but im not getting all pissed off about it"

And I'm very frightened by this

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"i know what the deal is there because its been discussed in 2-3 classes i took in college"

Next semester try taking not being a worthless pile of shit excuse for a human being 101.

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"plus, over there they do not look to highly on women."

I know a guy that defends these actions...and he lives in USA #1

[Edited on November 16, 2007 at 2:39 PM. Reason : .]

11/16/2007 2:37:04 PM

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"bans women from driving"

at least they have safer roads there

11/16/2007 2:38:01 PM

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"But the woman's lawyer Abdul Rahman al-Lahem appealed, arguing that the punishments were too lenient in a country where the offence can carry the death penalty. "

Sounds to me like someone got a pretty bad deal on a lawyer, I hope she didn't pay that guy lol

11/16/2007 2:38:23 PM

loells.

im sorry if i offended the human race

11/16/2007 2:38:29 PM

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"I don't think I'd be buddies with someone who runs their country like this"

you would if you both had vested interests worth billions.

11/16/2007 2:40:07 PM

this is the hot topic of discussion here currently, and i have been doing as much as i can to spread the story around the world.

original story:

http://www.arabnews.com/?page=1§ion=0&article=103556&d=15&m=11&y=2007

bbc picks it up:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7096814.stm

update:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7098480.stm

readers' emails:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/talking_point/7098940.stm



yo seedless, can i get the source on the one you posted? thanks.

11/16/2007 3:04:36 PM

In tomorrows headlines!!!


"Saudi Arabian court orders Retarded Quadriplegic woman lashed 500 times then stoned to death for being molested in the hospital by hospital staff."

"Attorney in case sentenced to 10 years in prison for defending her in the matter"

11/16/2007 3:05:46 PM

[Edited on November 16, 2007 at 3:11 PM. Reason : brain fart]

11/16/2007 3:07:39 PM

http://www.news24.com/News24/World/News/0,,2-10-1462_2221631,00.html

11/16/2007 3:09:32 PM

[Edited on November 16, 2007 at 3:12 PM. Reason : brain fart]

11/16/2007 3:11:26 PM

hahaha

this thread has an edit on like every post

11/16/2007 3:16:49 PM

WOW, WTF?

In the readers' comments on the BBC site, only 2 are supportive of the punishment for the victim, one by MIKE from SACRAMENTO:

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"Clearly, in many criminal events there are no clear-cut victims and criminals, quite often both sides are guilty. Saudi law clearly criminalises unchaperoned one-on-one contact, as a public safety measure, designed to prevent the occurrence of exactly this kind of situation. Saudi Arabia must be congratulated for their low crime rate. Scurrilous attacks on the judiciary such as the one committed by the alleged victim are deserving of punishment. Mike, Sacramento, USA"

11/16/2007 3:17:00 PM

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"their low crime rate"

What's happened with this case is a crime.

11/16/2007 3:20:01 PM

^

I could conjecture that the number of unreported rapes is probably high based on how they do things.

11/16/2007 3:23:48 PM

set em up!

11/16/2007 3:25:23 PM