god damn fire marshal piece of shit

the firefighters were totally ashamed to be there

BBQ chicken is not a crime!

10/27/2007 9:43:44 PM

holy cow

10/27/2007 9:44:18 PM

were you on a balcony?

10/27/2007 9:44:51 PM

no I was burning wood in a rock ringed fire pit I had dug in my backyard
lately I've preferred to grill on wood because it is more flavorful

I figured it was safe because it has rained for the past 3 days or so

state wide burning ban apparently, though

nobody told me

10/27/2007 9:45:59 PM

appeal?

10/27/2007 9:49:08 PM

that's the plan

the marshal said if I'm lucky I could get it knocked down to $250

but one of the firemen mentioned that cooking food is the only loophole
I'll look up the law after dinner

unless someone wants to be nice and find it for me

10/27/2007 9:51:10 PM

http://daq.state.nc.us/rules/rules/D1900.pdf


page six number 3?

[Edited on October 27, 2007 at 9:56 PM. Reason : wrong number]

10/27/2007 9:55:41 PM

^ gg

10/27/2007 9:58:40 PM

^^ ftw

10/27/2007 9:59:55 PM

Quote :

"15A NCAC 02D .1903 PERMISSIBLE OPEN BURNING WITHOUT AN AIR QUALITY PERMIT 3. camp fires and fires used solely for outdoor cooking and other recreational purposes, or for ceremonial occasions, or for human warmth and comfort and which do not create a nuisance and do not use synthetic materials or refuse or salvageable materials for fuel;"

Now, this may be nullified by the burning ban in effect because of the drought...

10/27/2007 10:03:34 PM

^^^ i didn't read the whole document but that section didn't say if applied during a burning ban. That exclusion only applies to burning within city limits.

[Edited on October 27, 2007 at 10:04 PM. Reason : not]

10/27/2007 10:04:13 PM

^^that's what i was thinking

[Edited on October 27, 2007 at 10:05 PM. Reason : .]

10/27/2007 10:05:20 PM

if you took matters to be safe, the dug pit, rock surrounded, then i think it's fucking pathetic that they ticketed you. i really wish there was a license to beat the shit out of people who dick you around like that

10/27/2007 10:08:08 PM

the statewide burning ban allows food to be cooked, but its also broken down by town, city, and county. So, you'd have to see if your areas specifics are regarding the food/warmth thing, as some have an all open burning ban, and some just follow the state regulations.

that really sucks though, hopefully the loophole will work.

10/27/2007 10:08:20 PM

i can tell you exactly how much money they'd get from me

10/27/2007 10:20:57 PM

Its because it was on the ground... if it was on a grill, that would be different. I doubt you will get out of it, maybe reduced but that would be all.

10/27/2007 10:33:57 PM

that reminds me to build a clay or brick grill.

would be a nice project.

makes a great firepit with the right design.

10/27/2007 10:38:19 PM

^^right but he dug a pit for it and surrounded it with rocks. sounds like he took necessary precautions. and if it was on a grill it wouldn't exactly be a fire

10/27/2007 10:43:00 PM

Survivorman would be so hosed.

10/27/2007 11:00:30 PM

why was the fire marshal in your back yard?

10/27/2007 11:07:43 PM

my guess is a neighbor probably ratted him out for not sharing grub.

10/27/2007 11:14:18 PM

sounds like some shit that would happen to me

10/27/2007 11:15:21 PM

fucking bastards

fire marshals are nearly as bad as assistant district attorneys

10/27/2007 11:49:59 PM

dude if the fire Marshall came to your house you got narc'ed on

10/28/2007 12:42:34 AM

its probably my fucking hood rat neighbor who was always coming over trying to get free beer off of us

here's a response I've gotten from the fire chief

Quote :

"> As far as questioning publicity, I doubt there has been a single daily local > paper or television broadcast in the last few weeks that has not covered the > severe drought that we are experiencing in headlines and lead stories. In > addition to local media coverage, the burning ban has been issued by the state > Governor and virtually every state and local agency and promoted on many forms > of media."

All of the students I have talked to were unaware.

I'm going to offer to put up fliers on campus and to make announcements via the student run radio station.

10/28/2007 11:12:48 AM

so... if I google "asheville burning ban" the first link is an out of date article saying "Asheville Burning Ban Lifted"

then another link to the MountainXpress (the first result)

then the Citizen-Times saying that the ban is still in effect

10/28/2007 11:30:10 AM

see this is why we just cook in our ovens

10/28/2007 11:31:59 AM

from the Citizen-Times article on Oct 25

Quote :

"The restriction makes all burning illegal, regardless of whether a permit was issued. However, the ban does not apply to fires within 100 feet of an occupied dwelling."

Hey!

That's me!

10/28/2007 11:57:17 AM

ha, so if you want to burn stuff, just do it close to your house and hope you don't catch it on fire.

10/28/2007 12:01:06 PM

well I'm going to point out that I'm a student and my primary source of information is the internet

I'm going to reference the google search and the recent Citizen-Times article

then I'm going to offer to help inform students and people my age about the ban and fire safety

10/28/2007 12:04:05 PM

Quote :

"The ban does not apply to a fire within 100 feet of an occupied dwelling. County fire marshals have jurisdiction of burning within 100 feet of an occupied dwelling. A campsite (for example a tent, recreational vehicle, pop-up trailer, etc.) is not considered an occupied dwelling. The Division of Forest Resources has advised county fire marshals across the state of the burning ban and asked for their consideration of also implementing a ban on open burning. The burn ban does not allow for cooking fires beyond the 100 foot area of an occupied dwelling. Cooking is allowed using an enclosed grill or outdoor cooker. "

The statewide burn ban has no affect on you unless you let the fire escape.
If the fire marshall gives you a ticket then it means they've extended the statewide burn ban into their jurisdication.

Sounds like the local municipality did a shitty job of informing people of the ban within 100 feet. I know we did a shitty job of informing people of the ban in our jurisdiction.

10/28/2007 1:25:30 PM

Quote :

"Cooking is allowed using an enclosed grill or outdoor cooker. "

I don't think a pit is considered an outdoor cooker.

Quote :

"and if it was on a grill it wouldn't exactly be a fire"

Yeah, that's what I'm saying... if he had grilled the food on a grill (off the ground) it would not have been an issue.

Quote :

"All of the students I have talked to were unaware"

You can't be serious...

[Edited on October 28, 2007 at 1:47 PM. Reason : ]

10/28/2007 1:41:07 PM

i got a ticket for the same thing yesterday. and the same lame-ass excuse, that i should know about the drought in the rest of the state.

but it has rained in boone.
every. single. goddamned. day.
for the past week.

the fact that i had to look pretty hard for wood dry enough to burn should be a reasonable excuse for not realizing a burning ban is in effect.

10/28/2007 1:43:34 PM

BUY A GEORGE FORMAN YOU HIPPIE

10/28/2007 1:46:18 PM

Just because it has rained does not mean that it is safe to burn. Y'all need to take a forestry class.

Typically - maybe. But you must not understand the severity of this drought.

[Edited on October 28, 2007 at 1:49 PM. Reason : ]

10/28/2007 1:48:21 PM

^ just because someone is black doesnt mean you should hate them.

10/28/2007 1:49:10 PM

Just because somoene posts does not mean you should troll them.

10/28/2007 1:49:47 PM

i think it would take a lot of damned determination to start a forest fire today (or yesterday)

10/28/2007 1:55:10 PM

I can not beleive some bitch ratted u out and called the fire martial. Probably the same kinda person who called the cops and RA when they smelled pot smoke in the hallway at the dorms

10/28/2007 1:59:00 PM

I don't think my neighbors went to college

how much was your ticket for, fredbot?

10/28/2007 6:23:08 PM

your mom goes to college

10/28/2007 6:27:33 PM

Quote :

"This does not apply to fires started within 100 feet of an occupied dwelling, if such fires shall be confined within an enclosure from which burning material may not escape or within a protected area upon which a watch is being maintained and which is provided with adequate fire protection equipment."

so this is from Wib Owen, Director of the Division of Forest Resources
its also on letterhead from the Governor and the Secretary of the Department of Environment and Natural Resources

10/28/2007 6:54:27 PM

Quote :

"I can not beleive some bitch ratted u out and called the fire martial."

Wow.

10/28/2007 6:59:15 PM

good luck, nick

10/28/2007 7:00:17 PM

I'm sending him an apologetic letter first... like "lets be friends... drop the fine and let me do a little community service"

but if he's not compliant I'm going all out with the legalese

10/28/2007 7:07:32 PM

I hope it was a great dinner at least.

10/28/2007 7:10:28 PM

I didn't get to fucking eat it

the meat didn't make it on the grill before I had to put the fire out

10/28/2007 7:14:49 PM

you should find out who narced on you and then proceed to fuck them over by doing stuff...


and when i say stuff, i mean putting flaming paper bags of shit right at their door and also not limited to calling the cops when they're having a party, and maybe slashing a tire or two if they continue with the bull shit.

10/28/2007 7:15:40 PM

I don't live in a student neighborhood

I've got a poor family on my left and some new people that just moved in and remodeled some to my right

10/28/2007 7:21:58 PM

is your backyard fenced... if so, how high does the fence go ?

10/28/2007 7:23:23 PM