i shoulda switched to this stuff years ago

10/5/2007 7:57:34 AM

dat 20 cent more a gallon

10/5/2007 8:03:37 AM

oh noes an extra $2.50 a fillup

10/5/2007 8:18:35 AM

87 gets me from point A to point B. that is all.

10/5/2007 8:33:51 AM

you should get a hold of some 100LL....shit evaporates like whoa....

[Edited on October 5, 2007 at 8:40 AM. Reason : :]

10/5/2007 8:39:49 AM

thats because its so clean. its avgas.

10/5/2007 8:42:11 AM

yeah...i know it's avgas...i use it

10/5/2007 8:42:49 AM

10/5/2007 8:43:09 AM

jeebus i shudder at your gas bill....

my ride requires (and hates me if i dont use) 93.....

10/5/2007 8:44:05 AM

beckers do u fly?

10/5/2007 8:44:41 AM

yup...that's why i would use avgas

[Edited on October 5, 2007 at 8:57 AM. Reason : can't type english this early]

10/5/2007 8:47:15 AM

i have an uncle that uses it in his plymouth drag car, though.

what do u fly?

10/5/2007 8:50:33 AM

helicopters

10/5/2007 8:51:01 AM

gas helicopters?

like a schwitzer or a rotorway or something?

i thought most helos were gas turbine now

10/5/2007 8:52:01 AM

DIESEL FTW

10/5/2007 8:53:37 AM

robinson R22 and R44 (they aren't turbines)

http://www.robinsonheli.com

10/5/2007 8:54:01 AM

oh yeah. my bad.

10/5/2007 8:54:33 AM

I had no idea, thats pretty awesome



you no longer have to eat meat

10/5/2007 8:54:46 AM

you can put just about anything in to a gas turbine for fuel, ford (or someone) made a turbine car back in the '50s and they managed to run it on whiskey, though some were pissed at the loss of drink

rotary engine?

[Edited on October 5, 2007 at 8:59 AM. Reason : s]

10/5/2007 8:55:13 AM

well i haven't been flying that long... i started my ground school in July and I should have my private license by the end of the year... I plan to go all the way through my CFI so it's going to be an adventure. Heli's are the shit...

10/5/2007 9:01:35 AM

thats awesome


I've always wanted to fly

but I really don't trust myself enough to do it

10/5/2007 9:02:29 AM

^^i looked at the website. they use a lycoming o-360 four cylinder engine

10/5/2007 9:02:52 AM

the R-44's are 6 cylinder...that's what i got to fly wed night back from salisbury...
that girl loves to fly... we were cruising at 115 knots

10/5/2007 9:08:15 AM

i use 93 octane in my car, makes it run noticeably better

10/5/2007 9:12:51 AM

my mustang ran better on 93 (smoother, better gas mileage, better performance)...i didn't notice a difference in my month-long experiment using my saturn (which kinda makes sense, i suppose)

10/5/2007 9:15:35 AM

in the gas vehicles I've driven

they get better mileage and tow better with 93

10/5/2007 9:16:43 AM

or you can fill up on 87 and put a bottle of the fuel injecter cleaner in the tank w/ it

10/5/2007 9:16:48 AM

Quote :

"or you can fill up on 87 and put a bottle of the fuel injecter cleaner in the tank w/ it"

yeah but how much is that stuff? $5?

$5 is about the difference between me filling up on regular and me filling up on premium.

10/5/2007 9:18:39 AM

^^nosir

how much is a bottle of fuel injector cleaner/booster/shite? like $2.00??

use 93

hell i use 79

[Edited on October 5, 2007 at 9:24 AM. Reason : ]

10/5/2007 9:23:27 AM

i can't tell much difference with my own car other than mileage, but i know my sister's honda accord will pretty much break down if you use less than 93 in it

10/5/2007 10:31:00 AM

ha, unless your car calls for higher octane gas or knocks with lower grade, then you're just wasting money in the long run.

[Edited on October 5, 2007 at 10:40 AM. Reason : ]

10/5/2007 10:37:28 AM

Quote :

"my sister's honda accord will pretty much break down if you use less than 93 in it"

in a honda accord? seriously?

10/5/2007 10:40:13 AM

10/5/2007 10:41:04 AM

10/5/2007 10:41:47 AM

aha i spent a couple minutes reading everyones response.





and then i get to EMCE's.


niice

10/5/2007 10:43:13 AM

10/5/2007 11:12:27 AM

^simonn i don't know if you're being sarcastic or not, since i don't know about accords, but yea, it has a LOT of problems...almost all of which fix themselves if she puts premium in there

i'm talking smoke out of the vents problems

10/5/2007 11:15:31 AM

niice

10/5/2007 11:47:50 AM

Quote :

"ha, unless your car calls for higher octane gas or knocks with lower grade, then you're just wasting money in the long run."

Yeah, funniest shit was in high school all the kids thinking they could get some crazy power out of running octane booster and doing nothing else.. and they all thought 93 was "cleaner" wtf, it's got more god damn octane, not less dirt

10/5/2007 11:49:44 AM

Quote :

"or you can fill up on 87 and put a bottle of the fuel injecter cleaner in the tank w/ it"

[NO]

not all injector cleaners even have any octane boosting agents, and of the ones that do, they don't do it as much as advertised. I researched this a couple of years ago when I had my supercharged S2000 (11:1 CR AND 6 psi of boost) and a hurricane made all gas except 87 octane unavailable.

short answer? complete waste of time for raising octane rating, except for one brand. Don't remember what it was, but it was like $10/bottle or something...and you needed two bottles to raise one tank of gas from 87 to 93.

Quote :

"ha, unless your car calls for higher octane gas or knocks with lower grade, then you're just wasting money in the long run."

Exactly. Listen to me on this--unless your car needs higher octane fuel, you gain absolutely NO power by using it. If your car doesn't say to use 89 or 91/93 octane, and you haven't modified it (and I don't mean an air filter or an exhaust--i mean domed pistons, shaved head, forced induction, etc), just use regular gas. If it recommends 89, use 89...there is no use for high test unless your car requires it.

The one exception to this is if your car is audibly knocking and you've already checked the ignition timing (or had it checked...5 minute procedure). I've seen a handful of old engines that had such heavy carbon deposits in the combustion chambers that they knocked. What happens is that the deposits retain heat and become "hot spots", and cause pre-ignition (don't know about detonation). Using high test gas can sometimes overcome this, or at least lessen the severity.


Oh, and if your car DOES need higher octane, you DO need to use it.

10/5/2007 12:02:14 PM

Quote :

"ha, unless your car calls for higher octane gas"

10/5/2007 12:10:03 PM

most new cars can compensate for 87 So you don't have to use it

10/5/2007 12:11:22 PM

I just got BP gas for 2.65. Last week, I put mid grade and some fuel injector cleaner in. It made that chattering stop, but I need to have the timing checked.

[Edited on October 5, 2007 at 12:17 PM. Reason : ]

10/5/2007 12:14:51 PM

i get better mileage and seem to have better passing power

course, that may have to do with the new catalytic converter

[Edited on October 5, 2007 at 8:12 PM. Reason : but fuck it, if it aint broke, don't fix it]

10/5/2007 8:12:34 PM

^ im the same way. my mileage seems noticably better

10/5/2007 8:13:58 PM

someone find that 'is that 93 occtane in ur wearing' nascar commercial.

10/5/2007 8:22:54 PM

all of you people talking about how your cars run better and/or have more power with 93 octane are mistaken unless your car is designed to run higher than 87 octane and/or your car has something wrong with it (severe carbon deposits in cylinder head or ignition timing too far advanced).

If none of those things is the case, the benefits are all in your head.

10/5/2007 11:58:23 PM

Quote :

"all of you people talking about how your cars run better and/or have more power with 93 octane are mistaken unless your car is designed to run higher than 87 octane and/or your car has something wrong with it (severe carbon deposits in cylinder head or ignition timing too far advanced). If none of those things is the case, the benefits are all in your head."

my car was designed to run with 93 octane.

10/6/2007 1:39:31 AM

If I stomp on the gas in my Camry (yeah I know ) with 87 you can hear knocking higher in the revs. 93 -- no knocking.
I use the cheap stuff most of the time but if I'm going on a long trip I'll do my best to use the good stuff.

10/6/2007 2:26:18 AM

set em up

10/6/2007 2:27:29 AM