http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/10/02/blackwater.witness/index.html

I can not believe the Iraqi officials have the nerve to state that our hired mercenaries in Iraq are terrorists and demand that they be taken into custody. The terrorist are the ones against us.
Blackwater prefers being called freedom fighters

[Edited on October 2, 2007 at 10:02 AM. Reason : l]

10/2/2007 9:57:28 AM

the turrists prefer being called freedom fighters.

10/2/2007 10:03:15 AM

truthfully i hope the Iraqi gov't apprehends the blackwater criminals responsible for this situation and sends them to the shitty Iraqi jail to get butt raped by Abduella, khaled, and habeeb until the end of their pathetic lives

10/2/2007 10:12:05 AM

Well, if they are guilty then a fair trial should show that out. It would be a good PR result if they turn out to be guilty and then promptly executed.

10/2/2007 11:09:07 AM

LOL

you people

10/2/2007 1:14:42 PM

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"mer·ce·nar·y noun (plural mer·ce·nar·ies) Definition: 1. soldier fighting for money: a professional soldier paid to fight for an army other than that of his or her country"

incorrect terminology

10/2/2007 1:32:28 PM

They can't be terrorists. They have modern weapons!

10/2/2007 4:52:13 PM

while blackwater sucks ass, they're not that much worse than the troops.

fuck 'em all.

10/3/2007 12:20:16 AM

the troops? whats wrong with the troops? Don't mix up the fuck ups of the higher powers for the poor grunt in the dirt.

10/3/2007 12:55:43 AM

^
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"while blackwater sucks ass, they're not that much worse than the troops. fuck 'em all."

yup




sorry, as long as military service is voluntary

the murderers troops are responsible for their actions

they can quit (yes, that's right) or not sign up in the first place

fuck 'em all.






btw

america was founded on terrorism

[Edited on October 3, 2007 at 5:44 AM. Reason : ]

10/3/2007 5:43:43 AM

OH SHIT I TOOK 4th GRADE!!!!!!

10/3/2007 8:14:46 AM

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"sorry, as long as military service is voluntary the murderers troops are responsible for their actions they can quit"

How, praytell, can they just quit?

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"america was founded on terrorism"

No, but I see where you're coming from. The Iraqis fighting US troops in Iraq aren't terrorists. They're not attempting to terrorize the American public, they're simply conducting a guerrilla campaign against conventional forces. So in the sense that, during much of the American Revolution, the colonials used guerrilla tactics, your comparison holds. Still, neither the Iraqis nor colonial Americas are/were attempting to terrorize the populace of the colonizing power.

Oh, and being tarred and feathered is FUCKED UP.

[Edited on October 3, 2007 at 8:51 AM. Reason : .]

10/3/2007 8:51:05 AM

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"Still, neither the Iraqis nor colonial Americas are/were attempting to terrorize the populace of the colonizing power."

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"they're simply conducting a guerrilla campaign against conventional forces."

so those car bombs and suicide bombers in the middle of busy markets must be targeting secret american ammo dumps.... that or us troops must be in disguise as Iraqi civilans now

and american revolutionaries, you know, killed so many americans to make some sort of impact on the british...

the only point you could possibly have is if they were JUST attacking american troops, but they aren't

you're fucking retarded

10/3/2007 9:15:25 AM

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"sorry, as long as military service is voluntary the murderers troops are responsible for their actions they can quit (yes, that's right) or not sign up in the first place fuck 'em all."

dude WTF are you talking about?

10/3/2007 9:21:42 AM

^ yeah most of that didn't make any sense either

10/3/2007 9:24:19 AM

Sounds to me like the dude is just trolling to get a rise out of people. Don't bother feeding him.

10/3/2007 9:48:28 AM

but its kinda boring in here

10/3/2007 9:50:41 AM

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"he Iraqis fighting US troops in Iraq aren't terrorists. They're not attempting to terrorize the American public, they're simply conducting a guerrilla campaign against conventional forces"

While I do agree that some of the militant groups we label as terrorists are actually Iraqi nationalists fighting against US occupation. From my understanding an even larger amount of militants are actually targeting Iraqi civilians as well. This is my opinion makes them terrorists differentiated from those who are solely attacking the occupying force. I am not advocating either group but I think the two should be differentiated.

10/3/2007 11:16:59 AM

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"[user]Arab 13[/user]so those car bombs and suicide bombers in the middle of busy markets must be targeting secret american ammo dumps.... that or us troops must be in disguise as Iraqi civilans now "

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"JCASHFANThe Iraqis fighting US troops in Iraq aren't terrorists."

I wasn't referring to infighting between Iraqi sects or the largely foreign lead AQI presence in Iraq. What is happening in Iraq is closer to Civil War than it is terrorism, which is the systematic targeting of a generally peaceful civlian populace. So I believe I had a point.

Speaking of killing each other, as I recall it was the de-facto policy of the Federal Govenment in 1864 - 1865 to "make Georgia howl."

10/3/2007 2:28:20 PM

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"How, praytell, can they just quit?"

I didn't say they could just quit, I said they could quit.

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"dude WTF are you talking about?"

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"yeah most of that didn't make any sense either"

here's my original post:

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"sorry, as long as military service is voluntary the murderers troops are responsible for their actions they can quit (yes, that's right) or not sign up in the first place fuck 'em all."

what do you not understand?

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"dude is just trolling"

nope, I'm not trolling...

I'm saying that any soldier who puts a bullet in an innocent child's head is a murderer.
The "higher powers" may share some of the responsibility, but the troops that do this are guilty of murder.
Period.

10/4/2007 8:26:50 AM

Considering the enemy uses women AND children to carry out suicide bombing missions. The whole 'its us or them' philosophy applies. Until you are there, facing these life threatening decisions then STFU and put your high horse back in the stable. Its the job of CO and NCO's to keep their men safe and bring them home. Innocent people will die in war, thats a tragedy. But when you are in a chaos zone like Iraq and you don't have time to think....mistakes will happen. If you're screaming "stop stop stop" and the child still is coming towards you then odds are somethings up. Soldiers don't go running around putting bullets in kids heads for target practice.

[Edited on October 4, 2007 at 2:17 PM. Reason : N]

10/4/2007 2:17:22 PM

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"the enemy uses"

we're the enemy, not them
they're just defending themselves

and it's not like they're forcing women and children to carry out suicide bombings,
it's just the honorable thing to do

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"odds are somethings up."

odds, shmodds
unless you are 100% sure that your life is in immediate danger, killing someone is murder. period.

besides, I said innocent children

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"people will die in war, that's a tragedy"

it's also not an excuse

if you're saying that that's an inevitability of war (for the aggressor, for the invader)

then you're just confirming that war is 100% immoral

and anyone that participates is a murderer, or accomplice to murder

pre-emption is unjust

600000000000 soldiers should die, before one innocent life is lost

PERIOD

(go fuck yourself)

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"Soldiers don't go running around putting bullets in kids heads for target practice"

right, we've got blackwater for that





[Edited on October 4, 2007 at 2:42 PM. Reason : .]

10/4/2007 2:37:58 PM

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"Until you are there, facing these life threatening decisions then STFU and put your high horse back in the stable. Its the job of CO and NCO's to keep their men safe and bring them home. Innocent people will die in war"

This begs the questions why are we there in the first place but lets not get off topic. This thread is about black water Freedom Fighers that are over in Iraq supposedly killing innocents being paid by the US and not exactly helping our PR or creditability over there.

10/4/2007 3:03:33 PM

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"This begs the questions why are we there in the first place but lets not get off topic. "

I wasn't making any statements to why we are there or should we be there. I was just refering to the soldiers that go where they're told to go. They do what they have to so they can come home.

392, WTF are you babbling on about. The 'enemy' is the guy you are trying to kill. It has nothing to do with being on the offense or the defense, or trying to repel invaders or trying to invade. Life is that simple for a soldier. they don't have to get their hands dirty with the politics. Like I said, they go where they're told to go and execute the missions they're handed. If its right or wrong thats in the hands of the planners.

When you are sitting in a Humvee, driving through a rough area and you come to a stop. You'll be in panic mode, just waiting for an ambush. That ambush can be disguised in many things. Children, women, men or an IED. If saving the lives of all the men in that Humvee means shooting a kid armed with an AK or a grenade then so be it.

It is NOT honorable to send children or women on suicide missions, period. I don't care if you think they're dying in defense of their country.

BUT THIS IS ABOUT BLACKWATER...NOT MERCS.

[Edited on October 4, 2007 at 7:10 PM. Reason : .]

10/4/2007 7:02:24 PM