http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/08/19/TR8TRGM5T.DTL
8/20/2007 12:50:36 AM
lets see...if i were a hotel manager, what group of people as a whole would i want to pay compliments to to entice to come and visit?poor indians and chinese? or rich americans and japanese?meh.[Edited on August 20, 2007 at 2:02 AM. Reason : ]
8/20/2007 2:01:13 AM
Those poor French and British.
8/20/2007 2:14:59 AM
cynicismBOOM!tough actin' tinactin
8/20/2007 2:15:30 AM
The Brits are among the most polite and americans rank ahead of the Spanish with regard to noise??? They obviously polled managers from hotels in a much higher price bracket than I am used to staying in.
8/20/2007 4:20:02 AM
8/20/2007 4:31:36 AM
8/20/2007 7:25:36 AM
is this why europeans fuckin suck at tipping
8/20/2007 9:01:01 AM
yes, it is. they don't have to do it over there. If they don't read up on American customs before they get here, they probably don't realize our servers generally make <$2.50/hr and they live off of tips.this of course brings up all sorts of other dining and service etiquette issues, like how the servers treat you here vs. there, how you're expected to pay, etc. i wrote about some of the differences in dining out in Germany vs. US after I got to Germany a couple years ago http://joelion.com/archives/18here's a paragraph I wrote about paying for your bill
8/20/2007 9:33:22 AM
8/20/2007 9:53:02 AM
^ there are advantages and disadvantages to that, both for servers and customers. For servers - i think good servers, especially at nice restaurants in the US end up getting more in the end because of good tips. but if you have a slow night or bad customers or something, then you're screwed. For customers - believe it or not, as much as you might think servers in the US suck a lot of the time, service is actually better in the US than most of Europe. At least it's generally friendlier and more attentive to the customers. That's not to say there aren't a lot of shitty servers that don't deserve your tip, but generally, servers here realize their pay is dependent on how well they treat you. In Europe, they know they'll get paid either way, so they don't go out of their way to be overly friendly (which might be a positive, actually, if you don't go for false-friendliness). But to their credit, especially in France or Italy, the servers are fast, once you get their attention. You have to flag them down for everything you want, but once you ask for something, it comes out very quickly.
8/20/2007 10:34:44 AM
I was once stopped by a waiter in Cannes when I attempted to leave a tip. He told me to keep it.He said that in France they were paid a salary and it was offensive to leave money on the table for them like they are some poor people who need help.I wish it was like that here. I hate tipping.
8/20/2007 12:20:52 PM
I have yet to be offended at someone offering me money.
8/20/2007 12:41:49 PM
[insert black people - tipping comment]
8/20/2007 5:09:12 PM
8/20/2007 8:18:51 PM
aha "shabbiest dressers"guess that buttweiser t-shirt isn't playing well in paris
8/20/2007 8:22:16 PM
We spent all our money on cable TV and spinnerrrrz.[Edited on August 20, 2007 at 8:32 PM. Reason : Ghetto culture FTL.]
8/20/2007 8:32:23 PM
Do servers in the U.K. also make a regular wage?
8/22/2007 10:23:21 AM
chinese people are agressive period
8/22/2007 3:39:13 PM
8/22/2007 3:51:38 PM
8/22/2007 3:57:02 PM
We're ranked as the worst dressed behind the Japanese???????????????Obviously these people have not seen the Japanese tourists in Hawaii.
8/22/2007 9:32:16 PM
8/22/2007 11:29:55 PM
8/23/2007 12:31:23 AM
^^^Japanese are all about buying baller, designer clothes. Americans are shorts and tshirts. We need to at least wear shirts with buttons in order to move up to the next level.
8/23/2007 12:37:26 AM
^^^oooh my first title!i feel so special.
8/23/2007 9:23:11 AM