1st build. haven't "fine tooth combed" it yet. hoping all the parts will fit together...figure i'd run it by tdub for review.

motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131146

processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103866

PSU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182032

RAM (add more later...)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220228

HD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136073

video card (probably SLI another one at some point-can be done with this type of vcard?)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161174

case (wondering about fitting the mb in this case with the middle fan dealio...)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811166044

8/17/2007 12:36:20 AM

don't be afraid to shop around.

8/17/2007 12:38:05 AM

Get a different PSU. Rosewill makes nothing but crap. Don't cheap out on the one component that can kill all the rest.

8/17/2007 12:44:49 AM

I've had an NZXT 550W for the last 4 months & so far, so good

but same for a 350W Roseill in my TV box for the last 6

8/17/2007 1:28:36 AM

Quote :

"Get a different PSU. Rosewill makes nothing but crap. Don't cheap out on the one component that can kill all the rest."

i concur.

do you have a specific reason for the processor and motherboard? if not you are completely wasting your money on that setup... amd can't touch intel's price/performance right now, not to mention that PSU you picked out would barely power dual 90nm cpu's like that, a slower 65nm intel would be the same performance for the money and require less power = lower power bill and more money to invest in say.... a graphics card? this is a gaming rig correct?

also you can find better deals on memory (and 5-5-5-12 at 800mhz is NOT extreme performance)

and i'd go seagate for storage.

so ... i'd do it completely different, but whatever.

here's what i'd do:
Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115028&Tpk=E6850

Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130081
or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813188013

Memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231065 or
http://www.buy.com/prod/ocz-2gb-2-x-1gb-platinum-pc2-6400-800mhz-240-pin-ddr2-memory/q/loc/101/203271640.html

Hard Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148136

Graphics Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130082

PSU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817194004
or OCZ or Corsair

Case
anything antec

[Edited on August 17, 2007 at 1:54 AM. Reason : .]

8/17/2007 1:36:42 AM

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8/17/2007 8:23:24 AM

Ooooh yeah, defin go intel. No discussion there. Better psu (i like OCZ), better performance ram, and pick a different case. Maybe the nvidia 8800gts 640 for the video card?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130071

Of course it depends on what monitor you get/have. The 320 version will be alright for most resolutions until you start getting higher like 1920 by 1200 or 2560 by 1600.

Maybe an antec case??

http://www.antec.com/us/productDetails.php?ProdID=81803

[Edited on August 17, 2007 at 9:20 AM. Reason : .]

8/17/2007 9:18:16 AM

This makes me want a new rig.

8/17/2007 9:35:31 AM

i was thinking that the expansion of the amd dual processor board would be something that would help down the road as apps go 64 bit, and cores go to quad. this amd board is compatible with the emerging q4 amd processors. but what is the deal with the intel vs amd processor debate? based on the responses, it seems that suitable ram, performance, and power concerns are what separates intel from amd right now?

as far as the case goes, whatever works is good. i'm not sure if the fan in the middle of the case is good for space and design purposes, but i thought it would help with airflow.

600 W will not power two dual processor cores? OK. well, back to the drawing board on that one. and thanks for the tip on the brand.

and as far as the v-card goes, I was thinking about SLI two cheaper cards to get ~ 1G instead of paying for high-end cards right now...

i was wavering between seagate and WD too

and thanks for the responses!

[Edited on August 17, 2007 at 11:47 AM. Reason : asldkfhsad]

8/17/2007 11:47:10 AM

intel's are faster, better buys and i believe the current platform is going to outlast AMD's.

8/17/2007 11:51:49 AM

right on, preciate it noen

8/17/2007 11:53:25 AM

Quote :

"600 W will not power two dual processor cores? OK. well, back to the drawing board on that one. and thanks for the tip on the brand."

Oh 600 is plenty for a core 2 duo (depending on what else you put in there obviously). Just a better brand. You don't ever want to spend under 100$ on a psu for this type of computer.

^^yeah you can get a Q6600 quad core core 2 duo for 289$:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115017

Quote :

"I was thinking about SLI two cheaper cards to get "

Or one card like a 8800gts 320/640, and get a second later down the road.

[Edited on August 17, 2007 at 11:57 AM. Reason : .]

8/17/2007 11:55:26 AM

SLI is only really worth it at the extreme high end (ie. getting 2 of the fastest, most expensive cards out). You're almost always better off getting the next fastest card in the lineup rather than 2 of the slower ones. You also have to take into consideration that SLI performance varies from game to game, and many games show little to no improvement at all.

8/17/2007 12:07:27 PM

^what he said..

in the end you are better off paying more money for a good psu, a higher end dual core cpu (instead of dual socket cpu's), and a better high-end gpu (instead of dual gpu SLI)

Quote :

"600 W will not power two dual processor cores? OK. well, back to the drawing board on that one. and thanks for the tip on the brand."

yes 600W will be fine, i was commenting on DUAL cpu, DUAL core, and SLI comments you were making... that's a lot of power drain

one dual core cpu and one high end gpu would be more than ok on 500w

[Edited on August 17, 2007 at 12:41 PM. Reason : .]

8/17/2007 12:39:45 PM

Quote :

"^^yeah you can get a Q6600 quad core core 2 duo for 289$:"

Dual core for gaming

Quad core for productivity.

8/17/2007 1:28:46 PM

I mean, clock for clock, the quad core Conroes perform just as well as the dual core ones in any game. It's just that the dual core ones overclock higher, run cooler, and use less power. They don't offer any real world advantage in any game out today though. However, with the price on them dropping to well under $300, and the fact that presumably future games will take advantage of them, you may as well get one if you're building a new system. Personally, I'd get a cheap dual core now and then upgrade to a quad core Penryn when those get released in the next few months.

8/17/2007 1:40:01 PM

i can all but promise you that games will not be taking advantage of quad core processors for years to come. most games today still don't take advantage of dual core cpu's.

8/17/2007 2:07:33 PM

Quote :

"You don't ever want to spend under 100$ on a psu for this type of computer. "

what?

8/17/2007 2:14:25 PM

http://www.technibble.com/why-you-should-avoid-cheap-power-supplies/

8/17/2007 2:20:10 PM

^^Sorry i made a generalization. Most of the time you shouldn't buy a power supply under 100 bucks, unless it's a good brand, and for a low wattage, less powerful computer.

^beat me to it. PSUs are one of the most important parts of a computer. You can buy a crappy 500w, and a nice 500w, and they'll be a world of difference between the two. One of the most common mistakes of a new computer builder is to see "600w" in the title and assume it's good simply because of that. Wattage is far from the only factor in what you should look for in a good psu.

If there's one component you don't want to cheap out on, it's the power supply. It can literally screw up all the other components (from unneeded heat, and power fluctuations/stability issues) just like that article said ^. Melted pins suck.

[Edited on August 17, 2007 at 2:40 PM. Reason : .]

8/17/2007 2:35:24 PM

CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145034&CMP=AFC-Bensbargains

$67.00 after $40.00 Mail-In Rebate if anybody's interested

8/17/2007 9:20:07 PM

Watch Fry's.com.

I picked up 4 sticks of 1 GB Patriot DDR2-800 4-4-4-12 (low latency) for $35 a pop

[Edited on August 17, 2007 at 10:11 PM. Reason : ^ or get that]

8/17/2007 10:11:24 PM

I agree with Prospero, actually I made nearly that exact system a few weeks ago

8/17/2007 10:22:39 PM