Bush adviser: Military draft worth considering
Lute says Bush has made clear he doesn’t think draft is necessary

WASHINGTON - Frequent tours for U.S. forces in Iraq and Afghanistan have stressed the all-volunteer force and made it worth considering a return to a military draft, President Bush's new war adviser said Friday.

"I think it makes sense to certainly consider it," Army Lt. Gen. Douglas Lute said in an interview with National Public Radio's "All Things Considered."

"And I can tell you, this has always been an option on the table. But ultimately, this is a policy matter between meeting the demands for the nation's security by one means or another," Lute added in his first interview since he was confirmed by the Senate in June.
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President Nixon abolished the draft in 1973. Restoring it, Lute said, would be a "major policy shift" and Bush has made it clear that he doesn't think it's necessary.

"The president's position is that the all volunteer military meets the needs of the country and there is no discussion of a draft. General Lute made that point as well," National Security Council spokesman Gordon Johndroe said.

In the interview, Lute also said that "Today, the current means of the all-volunteer force is serving us exceptionally well."

Still, he said the repeated deployments in Iraq and Afghanistan affect not only the troops but their families, who can influence whether a service member decides to stay in the military.

"There's both a personal dimension of this, where this kind of stress plays out across dinner tables and in living room conversations within these families," he said. "And ultimately, the health of the all-volunteer force is going to rest on those sorts of personal family decisions."

Draft history
The military conducted a draft during the Civil War and both world wars and between 1948 and 1973. The Selective Service System, re-established in 1980, maintains a registry of 18-year-old men.

Rep. Charles Rangel, D-N.Y., has called for reinstating the draft as a way to end the Iraq war.

Bush picked Lute in mid-May as a deputy national security adviser with responsibility for ensuring efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan are coordinated with policymakers in Washington. Lute, an active-duty general, was chosen after several retired generals turned down the job.

8/11/2007 4:17:37 PM

What does this have to do with Communism...or, am I retarded? both?

8/11/2007 4:47:31 PM

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"Army Lt. Gen. Douglas Lute said"

Who cares what this guy says? He's not even a GENERAL! How is he considered an advisor to the administration?

[Edited on August 11, 2007 at 5:10 PM. Reason : .,.]

8/11/2007 5:09:10 PM

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"Who cares what this guy says? He's not even a GENERAL! How is he considered an advisor to the administration? "

Before you go and make a huge ass of yourself...

http://www.army.mil/symbols/armyranks.html

Yes that's right, THREE STAR GENERAL.

[Edited on August 11, 2007 at 5:11 PM. Reason : asdf]

8/11/2007 5:11:29 PM

Sarcasm...

8/11/2007 5:21:21 PM

My statement is still true, he is still NOT classified as a General, otherwise known as a 4-star general, of which we have many. So, why not go ask one of them before we start asking 3-star, 2-star, or privates what policies George Bush is going to implement.

8/11/2007 6:54:06 PM

because

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"Douglas E. Lute is a lieutenant general in the United States Army. On 15 May 2007, Lute was nominated by George W. Bush to serve as Assistant to the President and Deputy National Security Advisor for Iraq and Afghanistan, also known as the "War Czar", in the George W. Bush administration. The position will oversee the War in Iraq and War in Afghanistan. ... In June 2004, Lute began more than two years as Director of Operations (J-3) at United States Central Command during which he oversaw combat operations in Iraq and Afghanistan as well as other operations in the Middle East, Central Asia, and the Horn of Africa. He assumed duties as Director of Operations, the Joint Staff, in September 2006."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Lute

8/11/2007 9:38:22 PM

Regardless of if Lute's comment has merit or not, the war planners will not implement a draft cause they don't want this war to cause civilians to sacrifice anything.

8/12/2007 8:23:39 PM

I think you should change the title of this thread faggot.....

8/13/2007 8:47:26 AM

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""I think it makes sense to certainly consider it," Army Lt. Gen. Douglas Lute said in an interview with National Public Radio's "All Things Considered.""

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"In the interview, Lute also said that "Today, the current means of the all-volunteer force is serving us exceptionally well.""

Which is it Lute.

^ Is there really a need to call someone a fagot? Please leave soap box forever.

8/13/2007 9:01:41 AM

if this same thread was made attacking the left...you know, quoted story with no link, no personal commentary whatsoever, retarded thread title, all the things soap box threads are NOT supposed to be...you'd hear the lefties in here saying IBTL up and down the page

8/13/2007 12:19:27 PM

just when you think a thread can't get any stupider, from the very title on down....

LoneSnark goes and posts in it, showing his complete ignorance of anything to do with the military


oh, and just for Twista:

here's a lefty saying: "IBTL" . Bucket this please.



[Edited on August 13, 2007 at 12:23 PM. Reason : ]

8/13/2007 12:20:54 PM

draft won't happen

8/13/2007 12:33:51 PM

haha i hope it does...then i could pick on a bunch of people for having to go cause i'm an only child

8/13/2007 12:39:01 PM

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"if this same thread was made attacking the left...you know, quoted story with no link, no personal commentary whatsoever, retarded thread title, all the things soap box threads are NOT supposed to be...you'd hear the lefties in here saying IBTL up and down the page"

that is because every conservative immediately pounds their chest and calls everyone fagot as soon as the left does something wrong. There is only so much salisbury boy a person can take before saying "fuck! shut this idiot up and lock the thread"

8/13/2007 12:48:14 PM

i think the left calls everyone fagot whenever a conservative does something wrong as well

8/13/2007 12:49:31 PM

cite an example?

8/13/2007 12:52:01 PM

I disagree strongly there with you Tree

8/13/2007 12:54:28 PM

you disagree that liberals foam at the mouth whenever a conservative fucks up?

hold on lemme look at TSB page 1 and see what i can find

this stood out "Yet Another "Anti-Gay" Republican busted ... "

i just dont know how you can even deny that not only do "righties call everyone a fagot" when a liberal gets busted for something, but the same isnt true that the "lefties call everyone a fagot" when a conservative gets busted? are you honestly arguing that this doesnt go on?

i thought it was extremely common knowledge that partisan bias goes both ways in TSB

[Edited on August 13, 2007 at 1:10 PM. Reason : .]

8/13/2007 1:07:05 PM

So are you going to cite an example of us calling someone a faggot?

8/13/2007 1:35:31 PM

no im going to choose not to feed you, troll

you're clearly just trying to rile me up by ignoring the obvious point i made that, surprise, BOTH sides talk shit about the other!

8/13/2007 1:36:16 PM

So you were just talking out of your ass, as usual. We were talking about the literal use of the word "faggot." you just backpedaled to the metaphorical use of the word when you got called out.


btw, dude.

fagot is a bundle of sticks

faggot is a derogatory term for homosexuals.

[Edited on August 13, 2007 at 1:39 PM. Reason : .]

8/13/2007 1:37:32 PM

so your method of trolling in this thread is to take every word literally

i prefer your other trolling method of just a short capitalized phrases like "CLINTON DID IT" or some other dumb sarcasm

EDIT:

btw for the record, I made note that your method of trolling was to take everything literally before you edited your post to admit that that was your method of trolling

2nd edit:

Quote :

"We were talking about the literal use of the word "faggot." "

we would imply more than just you...when you were the only one trolling

[Edited on August 13, 2007 at 1:41 PM. Reason : .]

8/13/2007 1:39:23 PM

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"I think you should change the title of this thread faggot....."

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"^ Is there really a need to call someone a fagot? Please leave soap box forever."

And since when is "calling someone a faggot" a metaphor for arguing? At best you're guilty of poor reading comprehension and bad word usage.

8/13/2007 1:48:14 PM

IBTL

8/13/2007 1:51:04 PM

Haha, trikk pops into a thread tree is losing.

UNEXPECTED

8/13/2007 1:56:06 PM

What does this have to do with communism again?

8/13/2007 2:01:24 PM

Nothing, I think.

FREE THREAD

8/13/2007 2:02:19 PM

I haven't cooked ribs since my smoker was stolen in 2004. Man, I made some good ribs back in the day.

8/13/2007 2:05:23 PM

Do you boil yours beforehand?

8/13/2007 2:08:22 PM

The trick I used was to soak applewood chips for a while so that they would smoke instead of burn outright and then put those in the bottom before I fired it up. They always turned out great. I remember cooking 6 racks for the superbowl and all them being gone in about 20 minutes.

But then when I moved I left it on the back porch because I couldn't fit it in the camaro (which is stupid to move in anyway). I went back the next day and our landlord had either thrown it out or let one of her mexicans have it.

8/13/2007 2:13:28 PM

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"trikk pops into a thread tree is losing"

losing? is that what you call it when you derail the thread by trolling? or are you so dumb you honestly believe only conservatives talk shit when liberals fuck up...but liberals never talk shit when conservatives fuck up? you're pretty dumb so it might be the latter

8/13/2007 3:33:35 PM

FREE THREAD!!!



[Edited on August 13, 2007 at 4:35 PM. Reason : ]

8/13/2007 4:34:40 PM

How can you possibly take lonesnark seriously after his sea wall fiasco.

8/14/2007 11:12:00 AM

As I understand it, the sea-wall fiasco involved me and everyone else trying to explain to you that many urban areas already have a sea wall and you proclaiming that such a simple and obvious solution for controlling storm surge was somehow rediculous.

Not to mention, you still owe me $100.

[Edited on August 14, 2007 at 11:23 AM. Reason : .,.]

8/14/2007 11:23:00 AM

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"Possible effects of global warming: 1. rising oceans - as the oceans are predicted to only rise a few inches, problems will only arise during storm surges in un-protected areas. Solution: protect currently unprotected areas. needed technology: concrete sea walls, requires cheap energy such as from Coal"

Dem derr isa big wall son

8/14/2007 10:26:33 PM

To the ill-informed: At least one high-profile Democrat has introduced legislation to draft Americans into national service, military and otherwise. The following video is of Representative Charles Rangel (D-NY) during a recent appearance on Face the Nation:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=V5KKfEpxA6E

Meantime, in the real world, this was said by one of the handful of Republicans that mattered concerning the draft issue:

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"Outgoing Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld told Congress in June 2005 that 'there isn't a chance in the world that the draft will be brought back.'"

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/IraqCoverage/WireStory?id=2666237&page=2

Check your facts.



[Edited on August 15, 2007 at 12:02 AM. Reason : .]

8/14/2007 11:47:33 PM

SandSanta, the price of a gallon of gasoline on the New York Mercantile Exchange is $1.9738, still $0.7649 shy of winning your $100 bet which ran out a long time ago. Guess I was right when I said "I don't want to encourage you to skip out more than you probably already will."

[Edited on August 15, 2007 at 12:51 AM. Reason : .,.]

8/15/2007 12:46:13 AM