http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BEsZMvrq-I

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Flip-flop of the century. Why wasn't this found earlier?

8/11/2007 12:26:04 PM

i've never really seen this...

i've heard this analysis before but never heard a top state official spell it out like this after the first Gulf War

dude, HE KNEW THESE THINGS, this kind of analysis before going in

ARGH

[Edited on August 11, 2007 at 12:54 PM. Reason : .]

8/11/2007 12:54:15 PM

so did colon powell and bush sr.

8/11/2007 3:31:39 PM

Even though he still has a bit of a snarl there he looks far less menacing in that piece.

8/11/2007 4:02:04 PM

The guy in that video would be a kick ass VP... what the hell happened?

8/11/2007 11:39:02 PM

I wondered the same thing, and I am going to copy/paste an explanation someone that knows more than me came up with, that at least points to possible clues:

Quote :

"Cheney's transformation took place long before 9/11. During the 90s he began to associate with the neocons of the Project for the American Empire (okay, the American Century), and began talking about regime change in Iraq. Not only before 9/11, but before the 2000 election. He changed his views somewhere. Why I don't know. It's a fascinating puzzle to me. I hate to pull a quasi-Godwin's, but it kind of reminds me of Mussolini transforming from an antiwar socialist to an imperialistic fascist. Not that Cheney was either of those, but the transformation away from pragmatism to lunatic utopianism seems as extreme. The assumption among historians regarding Mussolini is that corporate money flowed his way, akin to the Halliburton explanation. That doesn't do it for me, though. Cheney was so damn different under Bush I, but by 2000 he had embraced the darkness. "

8/12/2007 12:04:33 AM

Its not just an ideological shift though... he is simply a different person in charisma and attitude.

8/12/2007 3:35:17 PM

Cocaine is a hell of a drug

8/13/2007 12:18:03 PM

i heard this on 101.1 this morning

i was in total shock for about 10 minutes of my car ride

i couldn't believe such a flop

8/13/2007 4:34:52 PM

Quote :

"The assumption among historians regarding Mussolini is that corporate money flowed his way, akin to the Halliburton explanation. That doesn't do it for me, though. Cheney was so damn different under Bush I, but by 2000 he had embraced the darkness. "

Maybe it's nothing more than the desire for power.

And so they say whatever and promise whatever to get to that power, and once they get it, forget everything they said beforehand.

8/13/2007 4:55:18 PM

w/o a war in Iraq Cheney would not be able to hook up his halliburton buddies w/ defense and rebuilding contracts duhh

8/13/2007 6:43:06 PM

The optimistic part of me hopes that his change in opinion was a result of world events and the changing global stage...

but the realistic part of me says that in both cases he was just spinning rationalizations for the decisions of his boss.

8/13/2007 6:54:02 PM

because Dick Cheney never wanted to go to war with Iraq, it was only after he realized that GWB was for it that he grudgingly accept the unpleasant task of administration apologist.

yeah.

i can totally see it.

never mind all that PNAC stuff Cheney became involved in the late 90's while CEO of Haliburton. thats totally coincidental and irrelevant.

8/14/2007 12:24:19 AM

because thats exactly what i said

8/14/2007 2:49:04 AM

8/14/2007 10:03:58 AM

pwnt

8/18/2007 4:19:46 PM

silly rabbit, don't you know only those commie democrats are capable of flip flopping

8/18/2007 6:35:43 PM