two scenarios...

1. do you have to complete the 2 weeks notice? is there some unwritten law that says you should/have to complete it, or is it one of those "its nice to do" things.

and

2. what if you boss kicks you to the curb when you turn in your notice, does he have to let you finish it off (this is saying that nothing harsh went down during your resignation letter).?

8/11/2007 11:41:51 AM

damn, so i did a quick search on yahoo and kinda found the answers.

i just want personal experiences.

it said unless you have a contract then they can terminate you, and that you dont have to stay two weeks.

8/11/2007 11:44:39 AM

I beleive that NC is an at-will state.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/At-will

8/11/2007 11:45:10 AM

2 weeks is a courtesy. yes, they can kick you to the curb.

8/11/2007 11:45:51 AM

werd

8/11/2007 11:46:16 AM

In NC they can fire you at any time and you can quit at any time, no notice is actually required. Unless your boss is a dick though, they'll probably let you stay the two weeks.

8/11/2007 11:51:27 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrongful_dismissal

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"Note that the absence of a formal contract of employment does not preclude wrongful dismissal in jurisdictions in which a de facto contract is taken to exist by virtue of the employment relationship. Terms of such a contract may include obligations and rights outlined in an employee handbook."

Being fired simply because you announced that you will soon be quitting is A PERFECT example of wrongful termination. Despite the absence of an employment contract, and despite the law, an employer has reason to not fire employees for little or unjust causes. No (very few) employer will want a permanent record of having done such, so I say sue for 2 weeks pay, and settle out of court. (should that happen)

8/11/2007 1:36:09 PM

^ good luck trying to prove that they fired you because of you putting in your 2 weeks notice. See the above post about it being an "at-will" state. They could fire you for anything, document it as such, and then you'd have a bitch of a time proving otherwise.

8/11/2007 1:39:36 PM

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"trying to prove"

That's a different matter altogether...

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"fire you for anything, document it as such"

Lie, IOW....
I never said that we had anything close to real justice in this country.....
And as long as it costs more to bring a legal action (assuming one might win,) than the cost of the wrong you were victimized by, people are free to commit that wrong. It's called "playing the odds"...

Yea America!

8/11/2007 2:33:54 PM

It's one of those nice things to do, but not required. They could fire you on the spot, but why bother. Most companies would prefer to spend those two weeks trying to find a replacement or have you train a replacement.

8/11/2007 4:33:04 PM

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"Being fired simply because you announced that you will soon be quitting is A PERFECT example of wrongful termination. Despite the absence of an employment contract, and despite the law, an employer has reason to not fire employees for little or unjust causes. No (very few) employer will want a permanent record of having done such, so I say sue for 2 weeks pay, and settle out of court. (should that happen)"

this is an at will state. its often times a good management decision to fire someone who puts in their notice (depending on why they are putting in their notice) because if they want to leave their quality of work may suffer and they may drag down morale. every management book i have read has said that if someone puts in their notice because they are unhappy you cut them loose on the spot.

8/11/2007 6:47:10 PM

It's a nice thing to do if you're leaving on good terms and you plan on using them as a reference or putting the job on your resume. Avoid burning bridges if you can. If you're quitting to pursue a better opportunity most places won't shit can you on the spot.

8/11/2007 10:01:02 PM

some jobs require you to put in a minimum notice before you quit so you get paid for your unused vacation/sick time. I think my job is like at least 72hrs notice before you quit so you can get paid properly

8/11/2007 10:33:47 PM

The only thing here that sticks out is assuming you put in your two weeks notice that you will be quitting, if they try to claim to your next job that you were fired that is when it becomes a problem. If you say you are giving them 2 weeks its generally to help them out, train/hire someone to take yoru spot etc. if they dont want/need you fine, but you are still quiting voluntarily not being fired, who cares if they are upset that you are quitting. As long as that doesnt happen then if they tell you they dont want 2 weeks then feel happy you gave them the choice and then sit back and chill at home those two weeks.

8/11/2007 10:38:39 PM

I put in my 2 weeks to a job one time and they gave me the option of qutting right there or working out my two weeks. I said fuck it and quit right there. It was quite nice.

8/12/2007 4:52:47 AM

I thought that if they fire you, then you can collect unemployment, which the employer must pay some portion of - so the employer is motivated to keep you on for the two weeks.

8/12/2007 1:06:48 PM

if you are fired or can claim hardship (very difficult I believe, along the lines of discrimination) then you can collect unemployment.

Most employers are not going to fire you although they made take you out of the schedule or reassign your work load. I've seen a lot that didn't care if you worked your 2 weeks or not. It seems that some of them expect that to happen.

Regardless, if you are fired, it won't make much difference. Are you going to sue for 2 weeks' pay? I would think it would be fairly easy to counter that argument in court. They were going to fire you anyway, reduction of work force, etc.

8/12/2007 1:26:59 PM

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"Most companies would prefer to spend those two weeks trying to find a replacement or have you train a replacement."

yup. you got it.

most contracts (usually outlined in your company Confidentiality Disclosure Agreement) say you can be fired at anytime but you do not have to give a 2 week notice.

if i were you, baonest, i would try to give a 2 week notice. it shows the company you're moving on to that you have some common courtesy toward your current company. i just think it looks more professional than peacing out.

8/12/2007 2:37:00 PM

if you're going to work for a competitor of the company or are quitting because you just hate it that much, i wouldn't bother with a 2 week notice... any other reason and yea, 2 week notice.

8/12/2007 2:45:15 PM

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"Are you going to sue for 2 weeks' pay? I would think it would be fairly easy to counter that argument in court [by lying]. They [could lie by saying they] were going to fire you anyway, reduction of work force, etc."

translation:
You were wronged, but the amount of money/time you were wronged by is less than or equal to the amount of money/time needed to (even attempt to) receive justice for being wronged. The person or entity that wronged you can simply lie, and you, the one wronged, must bear the burden, and the costs associated with the burden, of proving that you were, in fact, wronged.

Yea America!

[Edited on August 12, 2007 at 3:11 PM. Reason : this is all assuming, of course, that they fire you upon putting in your 2 weeks notice.....]

8/12/2007 3:10:13 PM

my former company expressly said they DID NOT pay unused vacation/sick leave when you quit

so I took all my vacation time, and started working for my new job during that time

then on my first day "back" i gave a notice, and they told me to leave

8/13/2007 2:02:03 PM

courtesy

8/13/2007 2:10:56 PM

My last job I gave two weeks, then they wanted me to pay them desk fees for the 8 days in to the next month I was going to work, then they cried when I went ahead and quit.

8/13/2007 2:37:33 PM

2 weeks notice is a professional courtesy, just like cleaning up your desk, tying off loose ends, and leaving contact information in someone needs to contact you. Sure you can just say I quit and walk out the door if you don't care about putting them down on your resume of feel fine lying about that experience at your next job.

That being said, you should have something lined up where if they decide to drop you on the spot you aren't totally screwed.... that's just common sense.

8/13/2007 5:46:51 PM