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Wyloch
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Getting a new subwoofer that can keep up with my towers. Price range is $1500 - $2000. Recommendations?

8/4/2007 1:59:41 PM

cornbread
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hey, where do you work, or where will you be working?

8/4/2007 2:06:14 PM

pmcassel
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http://www.edesignaudio.com/edv2/index.php

8/4/2007 2:17:47 PM

synapse
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wtf? $1500-$2000 on a subwoofer?

8/4/2007 2:59:48 PM

DoubleDown
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hey guys im looking for a new tv, but $15,000 is my limit, does anyone have any suggestions?

8/4/2007 3:48:35 PM

bbehe
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sorry man, all the good tvs I know are 20k at the very least.

8/4/2007 4:28:37 PM

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fuck that you cheap bastards. why even bother unless you're willing to invest 50k in a good tv. anything less is straight up amateur.

8/4/2007 4:36:05 PM

bbehe
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hey man, I'm on a college budget here..I can't afford something like that. 35k is top for me, 40k if I fire the maid...but I don't think I'm quite ready to do that

8/4/2007 4:44:26 PM

sumfoo1
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http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=768150

summary: JL if you can afford it HSU if you can't and if you can't afford HSU then roll the dice with ED or wait till bensbargains has something or search amazon.


yall are a bunch of douche bags.

btw what towers do you have?

8/4/2007 4:46:52 PM

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Plug: I bought some speakers from this guy about a month back.

http://hometheaterdoc.com/

Very professional and he definitely knows his stuff. The HT setup he had on display was absolutely unreal. Anyway, he told me he also builds custom subwoofers. He said that one of his subs, for around what you're looking to pay, would rival the flagship models from the big boutique brands (talking around $5000). He actually goes to your home and measures where all the peaks and dips would occur in the frequency band so that when he builds the sub, it'll be tuned properly for your room. In any case, it was still way more than I'd be looking to spend, but I suggest going and having a talk with the guy. He's located in Raleigh and it would definitely be worth your time.

[Edited on August 4, 2007 at 5:57 PM. Reason : :]

8/4/2007 5:50:58 PM

tchenku
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If you can catch one of those Dogg Ditigal dealers, they'll cut you an awesome price on that high end stuff

8/4/2007 6:22:06 PM

JohnnieWalkr
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http://www.tcsounds.com/lms5400.htm

8/4/2007 6:43:10 PM

Quinn
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anything around 800$ coupled with a low frequency equalizer will be fine. if you spend more than 1000 total on a subwoofer and dont get an equalizer youre a complete fucking idiot.

take the other 500 and make it rain.

8/4/2007 8:29:45 PM

pmcassel
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Quote :
"roll the dice with ED"


ED makes quality stuff
i can vouch for their car audio stuff, browse the forums and look for reviews, best bang for the buck, but i guess thats not your objective now is it hahah

8/4/2007 9:34:34 PM

sumfoo1
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With ED it really sounds fine but with their home audio stuff people have been having trouble getting their units in a timely manner and i've heard they're douche bags to deal with especially if you do get upset with them over their delay. They do BOOOM really well but sometimes thats not entirely what you're looking for. I can't afford a JL unit but i do have a paradigm servo sub that i got on a really good deal as with the rest of my home audio equipment.

8/5/2007 12:35:34 AM

Wyloch
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Not looking for boom. Looking for accuracy. I was extremely disappointed in the Martin Logan equipment I listened to (at several locations, professionally hooked up).

I will look at JL, HSU, and also heard about Velodyne.

Also, perhaps Sunfine/Carver - might work well along side the Carver Silver-7s powering the mains.

To the earlier replies: just graduated, did get a sweet job, and though your intention was to mock:

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"anything less is straight up amateur"


...you actually spoke the truth. Continue on.

8/5/2007 1:59:15 AM

Seotaji
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check out audio advice on glenwood.

8/5/2007 3:11:19 AM

Sayer
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What are the rest of your components? I'm interested to hear what you're running. Sounds like you're going for something seriously sweet tho

8/5/2007 9:41:45 AM

sumfoo1
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seriously man speak up.

sounds like you're going for the best of the best.
i have a really nice setup but i'd like to see what u are rocking.

8/5/2007 11:05:28 AM

Wyloch
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Mains: Klipch RF-7 (my childrens)

Center: Klipsch RC-7 (love it...LOVE...it)

Rears: Klipsch RS-7 (kinda impartial to these - my true passion is stereo)

^ took seven years to accumulate the whole R-7 set, with the mains arriving last. My original equipment was all hand-me-downs, and of CONSIDERABLY less quality.

Subwoofer: Klipsch Synergy 10. This is the lowest end sub that Klipsch makes. You can see why it needs to be replaced. It is VASTLY outclassed by everything else I've got and might as well not even be hooked up.

Boxes
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DVD Player: Denon DVD-2900 (upgrade in 18 months I think)
Primary processor: Denon AVR 3805
Main towers: Carver silver 7 (routed from direct passthroughs on the AVR)

Cabling:
I believe strongly in discrete cabling - that is, six RCA cables, one for each of the 5.1 signals. I do not use optical (just my opinion - it sounds lifeless). As for the brand - I built them. They are the result of four years of experimentation and comparison. Monster, RocketFish, Acoustic Research, and all the other brands in that price range sound shrill and tinny to me, with typical measured peaking around the 15k range. So I set about designing my own. I've got all the design details in a notebook somewhere, but I think they ended up costing me around $500 for the six of them (the final builds, that is - that excludes all the trial builds).

Yes, Klipsch is notorious for really blaring high end frequencies due to the horns, so it makes sense that any component which introduces signal instability on the high end will be made worse when it comes out of a Klipsch speaker. My thought was that a speaker so incredibly (over)capable of producing high frequency content could be godly as long as you ensure it is recieving reference-quality content. And typically, the lowest common denominator in any person's system is the cabling. I believe it is nearly as important, if not moreso, than the equipment you are running.

And I was right. While the difference between plain old red/white RCAs that you get for free with most audio components and Monster-level RCAs is massive, the difference between Monster-level RCAs and my RCAs is even more massive.

Anyways, the RF-7s respond down to 32Hz with average dB rolloff. I'd like something to supplement down to the 18Hz region, hopefully to be equiped with at least a fourth order Butterworth crossover so that there is extreme dB rolloff at the crossover frequency and I maintain uniform frequency response. I HATE uneven frequency response. It's like nails on a chalkboard.

I've heard Wilson Audio, Martin Logan, Krell, and various other high end brands. They do sound incredible, but much of the time are, quite frankly...sissy. Klipsch is the only brand I've heard that sounds transparent (when treated properly) but also has some GUTS behind it.

Plus, I can't afford a 20k pair of speakers.

8/8/2007 10:05:58 AM

dannydigtl
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i built an adire audio tempest 15" HT sub a few years ago. ported, tuned to 15.6hz and flat as poop. Its freaking awesome. especially at low frequencies like rumbles, etc in movies. you dont hear a damn thing (like a crappy 8" sub flapping its face off trying to reproduce that frequency) you simple notice the entire house shaking.

oh yes.

i'm pretty confident itd hang w/ anything in the sub $2k range. you can find build schemetics (or at least you could) on adire's site.

8/8/2007 10:42:42 AM

Wyloch
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Thanks, but it appears they've gone out of business.

8/8/2007 10:46:03 AM

dannydigtl
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damn yeh i just saw that too. they used to sell a lot of kits and higher end DIY stuff. they had plans on the site to build proper enclosures tuned to their drivers, etc. thats a pisser.

8/8/2007 10:48:42 AM

Mattallica
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I know someone looking to get rid of an inhuman 18"

8/8/2007 9:44:29 PM

Noen
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I was really disappointed with the Martin Logan's ive heard. They are a mid-range setup, just with high end styling (from the 80s).

8/8/2007 10:52:15 PM

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Quote :
"I believe strongly in discrete cabling - that is, six RCA cables, one for each of the 5.1 signals. I do not use optical (just my opinion - it sounds lifeless)."


When you have a Denon DVD2900, it would make sense to have this theory :-) That particular DVD player has better D/A conversion than most receivers on the market.

I would steer clear of a custom-built subwoofer for a particular room, unless of course you simply have more money than you know what to do with, and you're looking to live where you do for quite some time.

I sell Velodyne subwoofers, and have had nothing but great responses from those willing to spend the money. It doesn't look like you need a whole lot of EQ capability and whatnot, since your left and right are already responding in the 30's. The SPL1200 fits your budget, though depending on your room size, I'm not entirely certain you need it.

Email me with more specifics if you're interested.

8/9/2007 1:07:05 AM

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