http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070503-congress-to-universities-curb-piracy-or-we-will-be-forced-to-act.html
5/4/2007 3:05:15 PM
w00t. Saw this on /. a few minutes ago.
5/4/2007 3:09:30 PM
They should privatize internet access on college campuses if they want to get around this.There's not really anything they can do to stop the piracy, without instituting draconian firewall policies (that block EVERYTHING except web traffic).
5/4/2007 3:10:37 PM
keep up the good work!
5/4/2007 3:35:22 PM
Oh, joy! Now Congress is involved.This will end badly.
5/4/2007 3:41:04 PM
I started to compose a much longer response to this, but I decided against finishing it. I'll just say this: if Congress wants to play armchair quarterback and do this sort of political grandstanding, fine.You want people like me to help? Fine. SHOW ME THE MONEY TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. I don't have the time or resources to do my job and add this shit too.
5/4/2007 4:07:52 PM
so pretty much some people from the RIAA made some campaign contributions
5/4/2007 4:41:12 PM
^^ i ♥ ITD
5/4/2007 4:43:09 PM
Political back scratching at it's finesthttp://www.consumerist.com/consumer/bullying/congressmen-who-took-money-from-the-riaa-send-chiding-letters-to-universities-257422.php
5/4/2007 4:51:54 PM
Forgot to mention the cosponsor
5/4/2007 4:53:59 PM
5/4/2007 5:07:36 PM
Oh dear
5/4/2007 5:42:59 PM
^^ to be fair, isn't that all paid for by public funding like bonds and taxes (for public universities, i mean)? in those cases, i think universities are legally required to make those services free to the public
5/4/2007 6:10:33 PM
^ not every funding source is a public funding source. there are plenty of private entities that provide funding based upon their own mandates and goals. not all research gets published.
5/4/2007 6:16:22 PM
yeah, i kinda realized that after i posted...and then i figured i didn't feel like editing but still...public universities are still required to provide a lot for free to the people who pay for them, right?
5/4/2007 6:17:21 PM
Yup.We should tell House Judiciary Committee member Lamar Smith that in our great nation, we do in fact give education and information for free... Someone educate him on that, please.
5/4/2007 6:40:41 PM
education and information <> IPif it has purposefully been placed in the public domain.
5/4/2007 7:19:18 PM
5/4/2007 7:38:18 PM
didn't know that libraries can have a gender...
5/4/2007 7:41:33 PM
the survey is very interesting.... they don't know what they're getting into i don't think. it actually asks us to tell them how many works were infringed by students in the last 5 years. how many songs downloaded, how many movies shared, etc. we've received 4000 infringement notifications in the last 5 years. i don't even want to guess how many works were cited in 4000 emails....
5/4/2007 9:00:00 PM
roflTVX anyone?
5/4/2007 9:59:15 PM
way to costly for colleges to track/limit/block file sharing
5/5/2007 2:17:00 AM
^ it's the tracking part of that which makes it burdensome.
5/5/2007 9:19:48 AM
^blocking/limiting it is also very costlyapplication inspection on traffic, and some of the third party tools don't even work well, nothing covers the entire spectrum of file sharingsure QoS/rate limiting could be implemented, but that neither guarantees a block, nor does it make exceptions for ligit services...ie downloading linux bit torrent imagesall in all, its all costly, i think the RIAA/MPAA should pony up the expensesof course, if ncsu had a zero tolerence policy, this would not be a problem. ie your expelled
5/5/2007 3:24:23 PM
5/5/2007 4:17:24 PM
^I agreeBut I am saying, I think thats where the RIAA/MPAA are headed with this stuff...put pressure on the colleges to discipline the students.Also, lets not forget NCSU would have its own way to look into the issues...im not saying, bittorrent traffic = expulsion.[Edited on May 5, 2007 at 4:30 PM. Reason : .]
5/5/2007 4:29:34 PM
the RIAA knows all of this...they know it's impossible for any ISP to monitor/regulate the offending traffic (note that i say "offending," and not all torrent/p2p traffic), and they know that it's an uphill battlethis is a last-ditch effort on their part to make others do the work for them because they've come to realize they, by themselves, have absolutely NO chance to effectively battle illegal sharing on the large scale...their lawsuits are a joke and the judicial system is finally calling bullshit on their tactics and absurd methods
5/5/2007 4:57:31 PM
see, the problem here is that these things have legitimate uses.for example, the Fedora Linux project, amongst others, PREFERS that you use BitTorrent to download the latest ISOs of their OS.should Fedora torrenters be penalized as well?how much time and energy should NCSU put into figuring out what each and every user is doing, and the nature and content of each and every file being shared?do you think that we have the time and resources to bring to bear on that? seriously?i say again, the issue is NOT the technical aspect. the issue is tracking.
5/5/2007 7:40:27 PM
I wish all of the universities on this list would just "forget" to answer the survey and/or answer "information not available" to all of the questions. It's just another bitch move by congress.
5/5/2007 8:13:22 PM
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