what is the difference? if component will not support 1080p what the hell is the purpose of hdmi technology? is it 'real' 1080p coming through component cables, or what. i am pretty technical (at least i think i am ) and i was unaware of 1080p coming through component cables until yesterday. this is completely crazy to me since i thought the 'true' 1080 resolution could only be achieved through hdmi.

3/29/2007 10:20:00 AM

hdmi = dvi + audio, basically.

dvi is digital.
component is analog.

therefore, hdmi > dvi > component.

i didn't think component had the bandwidth to carry a 1080p signal :\

3/29/2007 10:30:30 AM

samsung claims it can....
and xbox upconverts games to 1080p over component but....
i still don't like it
mine is running vga and i'm thinking of swapping it for an hdmi model

and right now most hdmi < (dvi+digital audio connection)
hdmi 1.3=dvi& digital audio connection.

3/29/2007 10:35:38 AM

i have searched the internetz and apparently component cables can transmit 1080p. my friend has his cable box hooked to his hd on 1080p through components and i thought this was impossible. from my understanding 1080p is 1080p no matter what transmits it. 100lbs is 100lbs right?

3/29/2007 10:40:39 AM

hahahahahahhahhah

no no it is not

and since there aren't any cable boxes running 1080p (because no one has a 1080p signal yet) your friend is lying or ignorant of this topic its running at 1080i

ohh and not every 1080p signal is created equally


[Edited on March 29, 2007 at 10:47 AM. Reason : .]

3/29/2007 10:45:55 AM

yeah that is what i was telling him. i said 'man something is not right about this' he looked at me like i was stupid. i was like 'oh well something is not right about this'

3/29/2007 10:48:53 AM

Quote :

"what the hell is the purpose of hdmi technology? "

DRM

[Edited on March 29, 2007 at 9:23 PM. Reason : dmrtypo ]

[Edited on March 29, 2007 at 9:25 PM. Reason : DMR: Department of Mental Retardation! haha]

3/29/2007 9:13:52 PM

DMR?

The Xbox's 1080p output is only through the VGA, last I heard.

And I did hear that component video can transmit 1080p, just that no one does it for various reasons.

[Edited on March 29, 2007 at 9:22 PM. Reason : ]

3/29/2007 9:21:41 PM

The 360 will output games in 1080p over component (only games that support 1080p)
everything else requires the VGA cable which then the xbox converts EVERYTHING to 1920x1080 @60hz... or 1080p



if you have a vga cable you'd know that it doesn't give you these options when in vga mode.
only resolutions all @ 60hz


[Edited on March 29, 2007 at 9:48 PM. Reason : .]

3/29/2007 9:43:19 PM

I own a 1080p 37" westinghouse...

I use it as my computer monitor off a DVI cable at 1920x1080.

I use it as what I play my 360 on across the component cables...

the 360's output is set to 1080p and it works, we have a panasonic 65" 1080p at work(yes the $10k one) that will not work at this same setting b/c it will not accept a 1080p source through the component OR DVI, it will only accept it through HDMI.

so it also matters what your individual TV can support on its inputs

3/29/2007 10:28:47 PM

I've heard component cables support 1080p but only up to 30 fps. HDMI can do more.

3/30/2007 12:04:19 AM

Quote :

"no no it is not and since there aren't any cable boxes running 1080p (because no one has a 1080p signal yet) your friend is lying or ignorant of this topic its running at 1080i"

thats funny.. since over the wire, 1080p = 1080i. if you hook up a 1080p lcd to a tuner and set it to "1080i" you think the tuner is only going to output half the scan lines at once? no, dvi is a p-scan interface, as is your lcd.

[Edited on March 30, 2007 at 10:57 AM. Reason : it's all in the deinterlacer]

3/30/2007 10:51:24 AM

RE:

Quote :

"thats funny.. since over the wire, 1080p = 1080i. if you hook up a 1080p lcd to a tuner and set it to "1080i" you think the tuner is only going to output half the scan lines at once? no, dvi is a p-scan interface, as is your lcd."

Quote :

"my friend has his cable box hooked to his hd on 1080p through components and i thought this was impossible."

they're not dvi or even hdmi

Now since my tv is 1080p native it up converts everything to that. I also know that neither motorola nor scientific atlanta have 1080p cable boxes available to the gen. public.

if this doesn't correct whatever you were thinking i said then i have no fucking clue what you quoted me on or said in your post.

1080i is 30fps interlaced or 15 progressive scan now if you're trying to be a dipshit and call me on the fact that 1080p is typically assumed to be 1080 progressive at 30fps or more.

"Due to interlacing 1080i has twice the frame-rate but half the resolution of a 1080p signal using the same bandwidth."

basically on an lcd that supports 1080i there is no 1080i its 720p or up converted 1080p

3/30/2007 12:23:13 PM

Quote :

" 1080i is 30fps interlaced or 15 progressive scan now if you're trying to be a dipshit and call me on the fact that 1080p is typically assumed to be 1080 progressive at 30fps or more. "

Are you sure?

I was under the impression that it was 30fps if converted to progressive, but 60 interlaced frames.

15fps is pretty choppy, and would be too noticeable.

3/30/2007 12:53:34 PM

Quote :

"1080i is 30fps interlaced or 15 progressive scan now if you're trying to be a dipshit and call me on the fact that 1080p is typically assumed to be 1080 progressive at 30fps or more. "

Ummm, no, no, no.

Quote :

" "Due to interlacing 1080i has twice the frame-rate but half the resolution of a 1080p signal using the same bandwidth.""

Not true either

Quote :

"thats funny.. since over the wire, 1080p = 1080i. if you hook up a 1080p lcd to a tuner and set it to "1080i" you think the tuner is only going to output half the scan lines at once? no, dvi is a p-scan interface, as is your lcd. "

No way in hell



[Edited on March 30, 2007 at 1:28 PM. Reason : dipshit]

3/30/2007 1:01:35 PM

i was off i think its 30-60


but spit the truth then

3/30/2007 2:10:03 PM

Why? You obviously copied wikipedia like it was the bible.

3/30/2007 3:21:22 PM

i quoted 1 line the rest is from avsforums

but since your omniscient on the subject shoot
correct me don't just be a douche bag and say i'm wrong and stop there.

i want to know where i'm wrong so i can learn and since you know better teach.


[Edited on March 30, 2007 at 4:18 PM. Reason : .]

3/30/2007 4:16:33 PM

^ It is funny that ~6 months ago you were asking for advice buying a HDTV and now you have suddenly become an expect.

3/30/2007 4:27:31 PM

hahah you go ocd on enough forums and you make up your mind and learn... i'm still learning
i want to know whats wrong.

3/30/2007 5:02:58 PM

while i dont know enough about this to comment, i dont see why 6 months isnt enough time to learn.

3/30/2007 6:36:14 PM

1080i/60 and 1080p/30 require the same bandwidth.. so both are able to be sent over component.

once 1080p/60 becomes standard and used (who knows if this will actually happen), you must use HDMI/DVI.

BUT.. the tv and the player/source must be able to send/receive 1080p over component.

Most Blu-Ray/HD-DVD players for example require a DVI/HDMI connection for 1080p, to take advantage of HDCP, which can't be implemented over component, or any analog connection for that matter.

3/30/2007 8:46:26 PM

xbox w/ vga and hd-dvd player

3/30/2007 9:11:42 PM