Hello,

I have about 5 openings for summer full-time co-op positions, below
are the details:

Requirements:
- Strong Java application development skills
- Knowledge and experience with multiple operating skills
- Profiency in english and good written and verbal communication skills
- Experience working in teams
- Graduation date must be later than 8/2007

*****
MUST BE ABLE TO WORK FULL TIME DURING SUMMER (apx mid May-mid August).
Candidates who are able to transition into part time thereafter will
be preferred over candidates who cannot.
*****

Here is one of the job links, there are 5 positions, all slightly
different - similar requirements:
http://careers.peopleclick.com/jobposts/Client40_GLDTR/BU1/External/139-17546.htm?ShowReturn=Yes


If you are interested in this position and would like to be considered
for an interview, please send your resume to jameswalt AT gmail DOT com

Please make the subject of the email IBM Job #B022942

[Edited on March 26, 2007 at 1:42 PM. Reason : Please use subject IBM Job #B022942 ]

3/26/2007 1:18:00 PM

fyi: ibm pays co-ops very well.

3/26/2007 1:18:56 PM

What if I don't know Java?

3/26/2007 1:22:11 PM

All applicants will be considered. However, those applicants who demonstrate proficiency in Java or similar object-oriented programming languages will be highly preferred over those who do not.

Computer Science, Computer Engineering, or EE students will also be preferred

If you think you meet the qualifications, please send us a resume. It doesn't hurt. At worst, you may not be contacted for an interview.

3/26/2007 1:27:16 PM

Quote :

"fyi: ibm pays co-ops very well."

like 17/hr or so right?

meh

3/26/2007 1:29:11 PM

Try $23 if you have enough credits.

3/26/2007 1:33:44 PM

When I was a co-op, I had started at $19 an hour and eventually was earning $26 an hour. You're also eligible for overtime. I think it had to do with my school status (junior/senior/grad/etc)

3/26/2007 1:36:35 PM

weird.

ibms offer to me in like 2004 was ~18/hr,

but it was in phoenix doing logic design not java

but it seems like it'd be set across the corp..

and yes, i understand a slider for credits... but thats a pretty drastic difference

3/26/2007 1:37:43 PM

logic design?

3/26/2007 1:39:14 PM

yeah, i co-oped at ibm for almost almost 3 years.

i started off at about $18 and finished at almost $23. it just depended on how many credits i had.

$18-$23 for a co-op is pretty good money. better then what you will get at most other places in the triangle.

hell, a lot of people wont even make that once they graduate.

[Edited on March 26, 2007 at 1:42 PM. Reason : d]

3/26/2007 1:40:02 PM

Hah, I know right. I was pissed my internship/coop at another company only paid $17/hr and I had to remind myself not to bitch about it in front of the recent grads I knew were making less.

3/26/2007 1:50:13 PM

I wish I knew Java

3/26/2007 1:50:34 PM

Quote :

"logic design?"

a hardware group..

i was way into that when i was looking to co-op, just didnt want to move to phoenix at the time.

and got an offer closer for ++

i guess i didnt realize how sloping the pay scale was..

where I ended up was much flatter, but started higher.

(went from like 22->25)

3/26/2007 1:56:42 PM

Got any other internships that are more along the lines of what pilgrimshoes posted? I'm not a big fan of Java.

3/26/2007 2:08:21 PM

I'm already doing co-op, but need some work this summer.

1. Is this possible to take on another co-op. I guess they don't have internships?

2. Would you be expected to do more than one rotation?

3/26/2007 2:41:37 PM

You'd be a lot better off talking to your co-op adviser about that than the wolf web, unless you already know what they would say and you want to keep them in the dark...

3/26/2007 2:46:08 PM

1. No, I don't think you can take another co-op while you're still in rotation, you won't have any semesters for school. If you finished one co-op and changed majors (giving yourself more years of school) I would think you could.

2. Probably, depends entirely on the company though. Paper science co-ops can do just one and that pisses me off.

Definitely ask the co-op office though.

[Edited on March 26, 2007 at 2:47 PM. Reason : office]

3/26/2007 2:46:49 PM

just dont tell the co-op office and you're fine.

3/26/2007 2:47:28 PM

it'd be hard to "keep them in the dark" if IBM is going through the co-op office. I've heard, however, that some companies are willing to make a deal outside of co-op.

3/26/2007 2:48:17 PM

^^That too, haha.

Going through the office and paying their fee, if I'm thinking correctly, grants you status as a student for the semester you're on duty. This applies more so for the fall and spring semesters, obviously.

According to the office you're supposed to do summer school, which is what I'm doing to try and stay close to on track for graduation along with coming back to the job with some more applicable knowledge. Well, more hours = more pay really.

[Edited on March 26, 2007 at 2:54 PM. Reason : lfadskj]

3/26/2007 2:48:36 PM

^^hmmm...i did three rotations "official" rotations at ibm, but stayed on part time in between a few times. i accidently let it slip that i was working part time to the co-op office, and they made me pay a part time co-op fee. once i was finished with the official rotations, i still stayed on and worked part time....i didnt tell the co-op office that time and never heard anything from them.

3/26/2007 2:51:25 PM

I didn't do my coop through the coop office. Why would I pay them money for a job I found on my own?

3/26/2007 3:12:12 PM

retention of medical benefits that would be lost from parents insurance if dependant is over a certian age or no longer a full time student.

that was me

3/26/2007 3:18:44 PM

^^Well, if you already did it, no. People have found their own co-ops and then notified the office, paid them, and kept student status.

^Same here.

3/26/2007 3:20:51 PM

They were trying to convince me to go through them when I was doing the coop full time in the summer, but resuming full time student status in the fall working part time.

3/26/2007 3:22:20 PM

I'm assuming everyone keeps full time status during the summer then?

3/26/2007 3:25:02 PM

i think so

3/26/2007 3:26:30 PM

yeah i woudlnt go through the office for a summer one

but i had to for reg. semester rotations

3/26/2007 3:30:13 PM

Quote :

"Hah, I know right. I was pissed my internship/coop at another company only paid $17/hr and I had to remind myself not to bitch about it in front of the recent grads I knew were making less."

Do you mean recent grads you work with made less than you? Or at other positions in other companies? (Because the first way doesn't make any sense, but that's how it sounds).

I wouldn't be complaining, upon graduation you can probably expect about $30/hr for software development (although you'll be salary probably so that all depends on overtime $60000 / 2000 hrs = $30/hr on typical 40 hr work week, make that a 50 hour work week... $60000 /2500 hrs = $24/hr), but considering your short stay and the fact that your practical abilities as a coder will be pretty low right out of school (not to mention the difficulty getting up to speed, dealing with the bureaucracy, etc), you are getting a pretty sweet deal.

3/26/2007 3:40:49 PM

at other positions in other companies

I'm not complaining now. I'm out in the real world. This was back in the day.

3/26/2007 3:43:48 PM

^Ok, I wasn't trying to single you out or anything, just people seem to be generally saying "oh I got payed $17-$20" like thats not all that great. You are a glorified intern as a co-op, you are lucky you are getting paid that much (which is awesome for a student with, lets face it, no college degree yet) and get good experience.

Anyone who is honest with themselves will look back after a couple years in the "real world" and think man I didn't know anything back then.

3/26/2007 3:56:25 PM

I disagree. I didn't increase my skill set that greatly between when I was working as a coop and when I graduated. I think the two companies I worked at got a great deal by having me work for them for much cheaper than what they would have to pay a full time college grad. Granted, I grealty benefited from the situation as well.

3/26/2007 4:01:32 PM