Only starting this b/c Apple's got a lot of heat on 'em to release some sort of Applephone, but we might see new laptops, who knows. We do know OWC is releasing some type of Mac Tablet mod, presumably a Macbook with a mod to the LCD that allows it to swivel around.

Lots of sites doing live coverage, here's a few:

http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/09/live-from-macworld-2007-steve-jobs-keynote/
http://www.macnn.com
http://www.tuaw.com

Post here about the new stuff, and about how much Apple rots, etc...

1/9/2007 7:46:52 AM

Steeeeeeeeeeeevenote

1/9/2007 8:35:20 AM

woot!! I'm really hoping for a 12/13.3 inch macbook pro!

[Edited on January 9, 2007 at 8:40 AM. Reason : more stuff to say]

[Edited on January 9, 2007 at 8:40 AM. Reason : .]

1/9/2007 8:39:52 AM

^ so basically you're hoping they roll the MacBook and MacBook Pro into one line? It would be redundant to have 13" Macbooks and 13" MacBook Pros. I'd just like to see some more performance and a price drop in the 15" Pros. My wife has a 13" MacBook that has good enough performance, but the screen is just to damned small for me to use regularly.

1/9/2007 9:31:05 AM

^ Nah man, they need a ultracompact pro machine. The 12" PowerBook G4 still brings in huge (relatively speaking) money on eBay for that reason. I think the Pro / non-Pro lines are quite distinct, regardless of LCD size.

But yeah, new lappies aren't exactly probable b/c there's nothing really new out there for them; they just went Core 2 Duo like 2-3 months ago. The only thing I'm thinking is Apple is gonna officially hop on the 802.11n bandwagon today.

Maybe its own 802.11n AirPort router...'cause iTV will need 802.11n.

I don't see how its computer lineup could improve that much based on the lack of new hardware (**save for the Core 2 Quad that Intel just "happened" to launch yesterday) out there, so they hafta make up for it in the accessory market I'd think.

[Edited on January 9, 2007 at 9:53 AM. Reason : .]

1/9/2007 9:51:54 AM

Quote :

"The only thing I'm thinking is Apple is gonna officially hop on the 802.11n bandwagon today."

Doubtful, since 802.11n does not yet exist. Linksys and other similar vendors are shipping product which may or may not be compatible with 802.11n when it is ratified. Some early testing I have come across suggests that the exiting pre-802.11n products do not operate between vendors yet. Also many of them, Linksys included, have much less range than expected.

and

http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=1703
says apple is waiting for IEEE specs to release 802.11n (Airport X2 X4) which starts at 300Mb and rises to 600Mb.

1/9/2007 10:23:31 AM

well all Apple needs to do is make sure the 802.11n on their iTV works with new Macs and whatever adapter they want to sell for existing Macs (and PCs?) to stream to the iTV

1/9/2007 10:57:59 AM

^^ Or, you could realize that while the final 802.11n standard has yet to be ratified, about everyone & their mother is already shipping draft-N products, for better or worse.

INCLUDING Apple:

Plz to see here:
http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/26/macbook-pros-also-shipping-with-secret-draft-n-cards/
http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/13/apple-put-its-supa-spicy-802-11n-into-the-macbook-too/
http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/29/core-2-duo-imacs-unofficially-rock-802-11n-capabilities/

I fully agree that shipping/buying draft-spec stuff is not intelligent, as you're just asking for compatibility issues down the road, but the market is there and people are dumb enough to buy it. I'm not saying Apple will def. ship any draft-N routers, but they're already shipping draft-N chipsets in their Macs.

[Edited on January 9, 2007 at 10:59 AM. Reason : .]

1/9/2007 10:59:37 AM

you're right about one thing: people are dumb enough to buy it.

1/9/2007 11:02:23 AM

I tried really hard to stop myself from posting this in here.... but:


I WANT A 32GB NANO!!!

1/9/2007 11:33:33 AM

If a 30+GB red nano came out, I'd buy it today if were less than $300

which won't happen

1/9/2007 11:53:35 AM

i would shell out up to + including $400 for it. Assuming it was Flash, not some bullshit microdrive.

1/9/2007 11:55:31 AM

early whispers are we get to hear final iTV details, potentially renamed...

blah, the last thing I wanna hear about is iTV. I own a DVR. I've got a PC that can hook up to my TV. I just can't imagine the market for media shifters is that big, but clearly I'm wrong.

1/9/2007 11:56:44 AM

i think it will be big if apple sells movies that are of a high quality that are cheaper than dvds. people will want an easy way to get that to their tv.

1/9/2007 11:58:37 AM

That's true, but seriously how haven't people figured out that BlockBuster online absolutely demolishes anything else out there.

like $18/month for nearly limitless DVDs...seriously oftentimes I can't even think of any more movies I want to watch. And if you lower your morals a bit, you can even keep the freaking things on your HDD for later viewing.

1/9/2007 12:00:16 PM

I'd consider buying an iTV if it were competitively priced (i know, i know)

1/9/2007 12:07:16 PM

I'll bet the pricing of the iTV won't be bad, because Apple isn't selling the iTV, it's selling the platform.

In other words, once you buy an iTV, you're stuck buying movies through Apple forever. They sell you 1 item and you inevitably buying dozens, maybe hundreds more things to go along with that 1 item.

It's pure brilliance. The iPod is a shining example. Look how many people buy tunes from iTunes - directly correlation w/ the hordes of iPod owners.

That said, the iPod is still a tad on the pricey side, but when the peons are buyin', don't drop the price.

1/9/2007 12:11:55 PM

Everything you said is very true, including the last line:

when the peons are buyin', don't drop the price.


plenty of peons just dying to have a mac that will sit next to their TV


alright, I'll shoot: .....$549

[Edited on January 9, 2007 at 12:13 PM. Reason : for fun]

1/9/2007 12:13:17 PM

If it sells for $549, it better be the best one out there and have a LOT of fanboys

MediaGate sells about the most streamlined media server you could ask for, WiFi, HD-capable, HDMI/DVI, internal HDD, USB for external HDD connections - for $219, and you can stream any file you want, not just Apple's format, for example.

[Edited on January 9, 2007 at 12:23 PM. Reason : .]

1/9/2007 12:22:16 PM

but.... it doesn't have FrontRow!!


ok, maybe $549 was a bit much... I would like to re-evaluate and throw out $399

1/9/2007 12:27:23 PM

it will definitely have an ipod dock, which right there adds $texas value to fanboys. $500 might not be too far off.

[Edited on January 9, 2007 at 12:34 PM. Reason : dock]

1/9/2007 12:33:48 PM

I would just like to quote this for Mr. Cisco who knows all

Quote :

" 9:29am - "Let me tell you more about what htis box does. 720p high def video. It's got a 40GB hard drive, which comes in handy for something I'm about to show you... and 802.11b/g/n"

referring the new Apple TV.

EDIT: No iPod dock, which probably means Apple doesn't think your iPod should necessarily correspond heavily w/ video (boooo) and you should stream video directly from your PC/Mac. Granted, I'm not so sure the iPod itself could push 720p streams out wirelessly w/o frame drops, and if so, it'd kill the battery rather quickly.

[Edited on January 9, 2007 at 12:38 PM. Reason : .]

1/9/2007 12:34:08 PM

check it out, OSX Media Center Edition!

1/9/2007 12:39:39 PM

hm. i suppose i'm wrong. i just figured the ipod dock was a given.

1/9/2007 12:40:04 PM

$299 for iTV

1/9/2007 12:40:48 PM

$299 is a great price. That MediaGate I referred to early for $219 comes WITHOUT a hard drive, and right now only supports up to 802.11g.

Again, Apple is selling the platform, which is why the buy-in is cheap.

EDIT: 3 new products coming today.

If one isn't the Applephone, stock will plummet.

[Edited on January 9, 2007 at 12:43 PM. Reason : .]

1/9/2007 12:42:10 PM

1. widescreen ipod

2. apple phone

3. "internet communicator"

all one product = "iPhone"

[Edited on January 9, 2007 at 12:44 PM. Reason : .]

[Edited on January 9, 2007 at 12:45 PM. Reason : .]

1/9/2007 12:43:15 PM

it won't be the iphone. cisco has the trademark on that name.

whoa. nm then. hmmm..

[Edited on January 9, 2007 at 12:47 PM. Reason : k]

1/9/2007 12:46:19 PM

Quote :

"9:43 am they are calling it the iPhone"

1/9/2007 12:46:48 PM

widescreen iPod & iphone?

Good heavens why didn't I sink my life savings into AAPL yesterday?

1/9/2007 12:48:46 PM

1/9/2007 12:52:40 PM

I hope they dish out a widescreen iPod w/o the phone, I'm under contract til forever

1/9/2007 12:52:50 PM

Man, that thing is going to RAPE the Zune worse than even the plain iPod is.

Apple just leapfrogged the zune.



Multitouch, it's about time this was released in a consumer electronics device.

[Edited on January 9, 2007 at 12:55 PM. Reason : ]

1/9/2007 12:53:42 PM

iphone runs osx

1/9/2007 12:55:44 PM

I would doubt it's actually OS X, maybe something that looks like it, but we'll see.

1/9/2007 12:56:12 PM

Quote :

"9:49 am shows software interface baby software on mobile phones now breakthrough 5 years ahead of anything iphone runs OS X"

1/9/2007 12:56:42 PM

LOL, it's like he knew about Gate's quote bashing him yesterday

^ yeah, I read that, but I can't see how that thing could run OS X...



[Edited on January 9, 2007 at 1:00 PM. Reason : ]

1/9/2007 12:58:20 PM

http://www.macrumorslive.com/

That's the best place for a live text/pic feed btw

1/9/2007 1:01:48 PM

Quote :

"I would just like to quote this for Mr. Cisco who knows all"

All I'm saying is that advertising it as 802.11n is completely misleading because IEEE HAS NOT RATIFIED the standard yet. The same shit happened when most network vendors came out with 802.3af switches and linecards (including cisco), and when it was eventually ratified, we all had to develop new ASICs to properly support IEEE inline power.

so they can put 802.11n all over their shit if they want, but it ain't 802.11n until IEEE says so.

Quote :

"it won't be the iphone. cisco has the trademark on that name."

I wonder how they got around that. I imagine they're paying us royalties, but if that's the case, i'm surprised we came out with our own iPhone.

1/9/2007 1:06:00 PM

I'm a natural skeptic

but honestly, this product alone just PWNS every other phone ever. it's like looking at something from 2009.

Whoever was rich enough to shell out and be the provider (I hope it's multiple carriers, but I have my doubts) is insanly lucky

1/9/2007 1:07:56 PM

i dunno man, I think http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/09/live-from-macworld-2007-steve-jobs-keynote/ is better

1/9/2007 1:08:05 PM

^^ Cingular logo spotted

1/9/2007 1:09:17 PM

^ It's GSM/Edge

^^ Yeah, but that is slower and doesn't autoreload and has a crappy layout.

1/9/2007 1:11:58 PM

Engadget's coverage is always the best, of course, I'm biased

1/9/2007 1:13:18 PM

Would it be possible for a draft-n device to be made in such a way that a firmware update could make it compatible with the ratified n standard?

1/9/2007 1:15:28 PM

Bobby should know that, but honestly I'd guess yes. Otherwise everyone else buying these things are screwed ENTIRELY.

1/9/2007 1:17:53 PM

sweet

1/9/2007 1:23:06 PM

anyone stopped to guess the price?

g'dang son this piece should cost like $800-900 w/o contract - seriously a high-end PPC is already near $500-600, and this thing demolishes it. I can envision lots of folks breaking contracts to get this thing. I might.

Still though, I want a widescreen iPod. 8GB isn't even close to what I need.

1/9/2007 1:25:36 PM

^yeah 8GB is the ONLY reservation i'd have buying this thing....

1/9/2007 1:29:21 PM

i'd probably change service providers for that phone

1/9/2007 1:29:44 PM