u think a 2.9gpa will get me into the business school

12/29/2006 2:27:00 AM

3.0

12/29/2006 6:08:56 AM

It's highly doubtful, seriously.

12/29/2006 6:56:31 AM

You're probably going to need to bring that up. Talk to Erin Dixon.

12/29/2006 9:30:00 AM

I just saw a friend of mine get a 2.94 and they wouldnt budge on the 3.0 limit. She is now transfering schools, as she realizes this is a hard limit.

Do well in the Spring is all I can suggest. Good Luck

12/29/2006 11:41:13 AM

no, they are really strict about that

12/29/2006 12:19:00 PM

I got in last semster with a 2.93. I transfered in as an Accounting major. You need to talk to Janice Wetherby and have her look at your schedule, then meet with Erin Dixon so they can put a face with a name. the easiest way to get in is through Accounting. After you get your GPA up to a 3.0 then you can transfer to a different major, its very easy.

12/29/2006 12:42:22 PM

Erin Dixon was a bitch to me when I tried to transfer.
We had a meeting scheduled for 11am...she gets on the phone at 10:55 and keeps talking to 11:10 about her kids and their fucking sleepover parties. Very unprofessional if you ask me, especially since I was there 15 minutes early.

They don't realize that a lower GPA in engineering is worth more than a lower GPA in Management, because they have their heads up their asses. Good luck getting in, they'll probably tell you to go to a different university. I told them to fuck off, and went back to engineering.

12/29/2006 2:16:22 PM

thanks for the advice

12/29/2006 2:22:29 PM

had a bunch of friends try and fail. Just go waste your parents money on a PRT degree

12/29/2006 2:59:24 PM

erin dixon is a stupid bitch, she pulled that waiting shit on me when I went to see her about transfering in from engineering. I had a 2.9 or so at the time and I got in (to Accounting). they're less strict about GPA, so try to transfer into that. you won't get into management, but if you can get in to accounting you can transfer to business later once your GPA is better (they basically use the same classes anyhow)

12/29/2006 3:09:28 PM

^^^^ it probably has more to do with too many people in the com than them not realizing engineering is a more difficult degree.

i dont know this as a fact, but you might considering trying to get into the college of management through an economics degree. theres not very many students in economics compared to accounting, and especially business management.

12/29/2006 6:45:42 PM

economics is a no go, if anything, they're MORE strict about their GPA requirements...I've heard they expect a 3.25 or better

12/29/2006 7:15:15 PM

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"economics is a no go, if anything, they're MORE strict about their GPA requirements...I've heard they expect a 3.25 or better"

yes.. for your sake, do NOT ask to transfer into Economics - they will shoot you down.

CHeezitman - are you financially able to stay at NCSU another semester and bring that 2.9 up to a 3.0? If so, dont sweat it and use the Spring as a buffer to get into the COM curriculum that you want to get into instead of wasting a semester taking ACC courses.

[Edited on December 29, 2006 at 7:55 PM. Reason : ha]

12/29/2006 7:29:39 PM

yea just take a bunch of easy A's to get your gpa up and transfer in

12/29/2006 7:40:16 PM

just out of curiosity, why the varying levels of GPA acceptance across the COM majors?

Is it a supply and demand thing? I know it's not an "easy/hard" thing because all of the COM majors have their degrees of difficulty.

12/29/2006 7:55:20 PM

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"Is it a supply and demand thing?"

Of course, yes. All departments, colleges, and even Universities run off the supply and demand of students desiring to enter to the quality of the program. In this case, the COM is flooded with transfer students and that is why this policy is so strict. They have some calculation of who is applying and what GPA will act as a buffer to regulating the appropriate number of students (and the quality) into the program. It sucks, but this makes our program better.

12/29/2006 7:58:25 PM

in speaking of quality, our ACC program is awesome. Both our undergrad and grad programs are ranked twentieth in the nation. So, it surprises me that this is the easier program to get into. I am not familiar with how our other programs are ranked. Are you?

12/29/2006 8:55:34 PM

yea im registered for some easy A's this semester, i currently have a 2.975 but i wanted to be sure i could get it fo sho

12/29/2006 9:55:43 PM

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"our ACC program is awesome"

Agreed - Esp with the MACC program, the ACC degree is one of the best and the ranking support this fact. It is probably the highest ranked program in COM.

The fact that we are primarily an Ag/Engineering school probably is the reason why most transfer students dont go into ACC. With this said, this is the reason I am thankful they have the 3.0 limit in that the program's strength is in its selective admissions and the cascading effects within.

12/29/2006 10:02:03 PM

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"They don't realize that a lower GPA in engineering is worth more than a lower GPA in Management, because they have their heads up their asses. Good luck getting in, they'll probably tell you to go to a different university. I told them to fuck off, and went back to engineering."

i love how all the engineers talk shit about the business school until they realize engineering is too hard for them and they want in. then they cry about the gpa limit

the limit is there. they don't care if you have a 2.999999 in engineering. meet the requirements just like everyone else and stop looking for someone to suck your dick because you attempted a degree in engineering

12/29/2006 10:39:21 PM

^ftw

12/30/2006 12:27:56 AM

Those words were verbatim from my adviser and not from me.
I never "realized engineering was too hard for me", but I just hated it so I decided to see what else was out there. I liked the accounting and business courses I was taking so I decided to see if I could get in. Eventually I decided I've come too far in electrical to quit now, so I'm going to finish in electrical.

Although I will say, the courses I took in the college of management this past semester were the easiest I've had here at NCSU, by far. I literally studied 1-5 hours, cumulative throughout the entire semester, for both. And ironically enough, everyone I've dealt with in engineering has been prompt, on time, and professional. I can't say the same about management...

12/30/2006 1:48:14 AM

ok

public speaking was one of the easiest classes i took at state

if we're going to use general terms here, i'll go ahead and say that most engineers probably have anxiety attacks just thinking about a public speaking class

however i dont emit some sort of attitude that i'm better because public speaking doesn't terrify me

enginners, esp at state have this complex that they are gods gift to the world and its really pretty lame

"omg this one management class i took was sooooo easy compared to engineering...har har har"

who cares. the world wouldn't function if everyone was engineer. or even a business major for that matter.

12/30/2006 1:57:42 AM

Perhaps that's just the stereotype you're getting from TWW? Most people I know in engineering don't think they're God's gift to the world...

12/30/2006 2:16:00 AM

perhaps you're right

12/30/2006 2:27:29 AM

management use to have a 3.0 gpa requirement...from what i was told its 3.25 now- too many people want to go there cause they know its fucking easy

12/30/2006 2:30:39 AM

We're usually bumped down a few notches during our weedout classes.

12/30/2006 2:30:57 AM

GPA to enter a program has nothing to do with how hard or how easy a program is. Management is not easy, it is just popular. People who are often undecided about what they want to do gravitate toward majors that will give them many possibilities -business and communication are two examples. Everything is a business at some level and everything we do requires effective communication.

It is possible to get into Accounting and Economics (sometimes)with less than a 3.0 because those majors are less crowded. Business is and has been the largest single major on campus for the last ten years-perhaps longer. They have to control demand until they have enough resources (supply) to meet the demand.

12/30/2006 7:35:26 AM

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"everything we do requires effective communication"

Something that never seems to get taught or emphasized enough .

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"Perhaps that's just the stereotype you're getting from TWW? Most people I know in engineering don't think they're God's gift to the world..."

Pretty much. Talk to most folks who have worked in the real world (internship, coop, alumni, etc.) and that attitudes disappears when you work more and more on multidisciplinary teams.

So far as the GPA requirement, it can never hurt to try. Case-by-case basis and the worst they can do is tell you to come back at the end of the spring semester.

12/30/2006 8:04:16 AM

i wont budge from the fact that engineering IS harder for the population as a whole. math and science is plain difficult for a lot of people. this isnt to say that you cant "fake it" while in engineering through a good bit of work or selective memorization.

what we need to remember as students is that plenty of intelligent people go into EVERY major. this makes the whole "im better than you act" retarded.

12/30/2006 9:42:27 AM

just finish with engineering and get a job and work for 2 or 3 years. Chances are you will make twice as much money as the business majors coming out of school. Then, go back and get an MBA (which your company probably will pay for). By that time you get out of the MBA program, you should have no student loans left, you will be making atleast $100,000/year, and you will be happy you did what you did.

12/30/2006 3:22:04 PM

^and if it was that simple..... it is a lift me up story though. Go ahead and tell us that so and so(or the good percentage thing) got this or that amount of money...blah blah.....

PRT, that is your best bet for the "cant get into college of management because of my GPA" crew

Just face it, us management grads will be the BOSSES of those engineer grads....







[Edited on December 30, 2006 at 5:08 PM. Reason : w]

12/30/2006 4:59:22 PM

I graduated with a philosophy degree earlier this year, and before the end of next month I may be manager of a vet clinic that has about 20 employees.

I think people should study what they like. School isn't the end of becoming qualified for the job you like. Related experience, work experience, volunteering... there are plenty of post school routes to working towards a job you want other than busting your balls on a degree in something you don't enjoy.

Just having a 4 year degree puts you ahead of plenty of the population... if you then work in the same field, even if it is a lesser position, you can work your way up the ladder from the inside.

12/30/2006 6:01:18 PM

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"Just face it, us management grads will be the BOSSES of those engineer grads.... "

i'd love to see some numbers on how many management grads with no technical background actually manage engineers and if they do - how long it takes them to get to that point

it's almost as if management grads think they start off managing ppl all the time

12/30/2006 6:05:41 PM

I like bigun20's idea. My current boss has a bs in statistics and my last two bosses had degrees in csc, so good luck becomming my boss with just a degree in management.

12/30/2006 6:31:37 PM

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"Just face it, us management grads will be the BOSSES of those engineer grads.... "

You mean like this guy??

The Pointy-Haired Boss and technology...


And here we have the PHB losing chess to a pineapple.

12/30/2006 7:10:30 PM

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"i'd love to see some numbers on how many management grads with no technical background actually manage engineers and if they do - how long it takes them to get to that point "

i have no technical background but the only people hired for my job have either a busines degree or engineering degree

after i get field experience i will come back to corporate and become a manager. its very likely that i'll be managing engineers because the company i work is made up of tens of thousands of engineers

so right out of school (1 month after graduation) i have the same job title and salary grade as someone with an engineering degree. sure, the engineers make a little more, lets say $2-3k a year (its not much more than that)

by the time we're all finished in the field (about 7 years from now) we'll likely go into management positions & in the end it will be a wash for the engineers and we'll all be making about the same amount of money

12/30/2006 10:20:20 PM

I think its very unlikely that you will manage engineers as usually a technical manager fills that role. You may be over other people, or you may one day be over the technical manager, but you will most likely not be directly over the engineers. Probably, if you manage anyone, it will be hourly employees in some sort of unit.

12/31/2006 12:35:48 AM

all you nigs think you are better than everyone else and it is fucking sick...how bout we all work together as a team instead of bitching at what someone else is, or what they do

for fucks sake, its motherfucking 2007 almost

12/31/2006 8:12:43 AM

mostly when you get out of school, its business people complaining about how they dont get the engineers salary.

1/1/2007 6:14:24 PM

I'm elated that ^ is related 100% to the topic at hand.

1/1/2007 6:23:15 PM

non-technical folks directly managing technical folks is a recipe for disaster. ^^^^ is right. All the non-technical managers I know are in the HR dept. Even our top managers come from a technical background many decades ago

[Edited on January 1, 2007 at 7:25 PM. Reason : sdf]

1/1/2007 7:24:12 PM

High school clasemate got a free ride at NCSU, got a engineering degree....but couldnt get into management without a MBA....so he had to go back to school for that.

1/1/2007 7:39:05 PM

I don't see the glamour in management. If you want to work 65 hours a week and never be able to take your vacation days all while earning only about $5-15k more than an engineer with the same experience, be my guest.

1/1/2007 8:30:19 PM

^ Not much glamor, but I couldn't pass Calc. III if my life depended on it

Same goes for a lot of folks

1/1/2007 8:58:44 PM

how is a sub 3.0 even possible?

1/1/2007 9:04:44 PM

^
Lots of reasons, some legit, some not. Also, not everybody necessarily does well with a structured academic system.

Not to kill the thread, but if isn't related to the poster's original post, can you create a new topic and take the discussion there?

1/1/2007 10:13:55 PM