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"Repulsive act should end season for school SCOTT FOWLER Forestview High is scheduled to host a boys' soccer playoff game tonight in Gastonia. The game absolutely should not be played. Forestview should forfeit the game and end its season. Why? Because Saturday, before Forestview's last home playoff game against Charlotte Catholic, a segment of a Nazi-era speech given by one of Adolf Hitler's top lieutenants was played over the Forestview public address system. It was a misguided motivational attempt. What these kids at Forestview need -- besides some better adult leadership -- is a good history lesson. You don't put Joseph Goebbels, Hitler's minister of propaganda, on the P.A. That's absurd and repulsive. Instead of playing another soccer game, I'd suggest using the time for a group viewing of "Schindler's List" by Forestview's players, coaches and principal. Or reading aloud from Elie Wiesel's book "Night." Or inviting a Holocaust survivor to speak at the school. Forestview Principal Robert Carpenter confirmed Monday that a CD containing part of a Nazi-era speech was played over the P.A. system before Saturday's soccer game, which Forestview won. Carpenter apologized in a faxed letter to Charlotte Catholic. At the time, the principal mistakenly believed the speech in question had been made by Hitler, not Goebbels. Part of Carpenter's letter of apology read: "Sometime back Coach (David) Shearer and the team started using `On to victory' as a slogan. We have a German exchange student on our team. He taught our students to say it in German. Some of our more zealous students sought to capture this slogan in German and to play it on the PA." Later in the letter, Carpenter said: "Student intent was to only play the `On to victory' clip. Unfortunately at one time a good bit of the speech was played on the PA during the pre-game." I don't care if it was a little bit or a lot of a Nazi speech. You don't sample a Nazi minister of propaganda like he was a rap artist. Goebbels, like Hitler, was a murderer on a monstrous scale. He eventually committed suicide along with his wife, although they first killed their six children with poison. I'm no Holocaust expert. But I've visited concentration camps in Germany and Anne Frank's house in Amsterdam. I know enough -- we all should know enough -- to understand that the Nazi name should never be broached to get somebody pumped up for a sporting event. Wasn't the theme from "Rocky" good enough for Forestview? If history was the students' passion, how about a taped speech from John F. Kennedy or Winston Churchill? And where were school officials when Goebbels' voice was booming out in German over the loudspeaker? To borrow an NCAA phrase, this was a lack of institutional control. Forestview's administration is doing the school no favors by not answering questions publicly about the incident. Neither principal Carpenter nor coach Shearer returned my calls Tuesday. An Observer reporter who went to the team's Tuesday practice was told no one from Forestview would talk to him. Forestview should shut its soccer season down. There are many more important things than soccer. This school needs to learn a few. "

11/8/2006 11:40:59 AM

Yeah, I heard about this on the 850 blog. Crazy stuff, man.

11/8/2006 11:42:33 AM

surprised there hasnt been a thread already

some of the players/coaches are either:

- blatantly racist

or

- dumbasses

maybe both

11/8/2006 11:43:21 AM

^^yo that linksys usb adapter i got from you is awesome

my dlink couldnt pick up any of the wireless signals well enough...but yours picks up 2 pretty good

[Edited on November 8, 2006 at 11:43 AM. Reason : .]

11/8/2006 11:43:36 AM

^Glad I could help you out on that. BTTT though.

11/8/2006 11:45:33 AM

not grounds for ending the season, imo.

11/8/2006 11:52:07 AM

Hey DNL
way to add to the topic

is your PM broke?

11/8/2006 11:54:32 AM

I don't think the season should be terminated, but I think an apology should be given to anyone that was offended by the incident.

11/8/2006 11:57:25 AM

I don't get apologies when people offend me.

it was very stupid, yes. But not as big a deal as people are making it out to be

[Edited on November 8, 2006 at 12:00 PM. Reason : .]

11/8/2006 11:58:23 AM

how stupid do you have to be to play that shit?

jesus

11/8/2006 12:01:56 PM

^^well it would be one thing if some of the kids were like "hey coach we found this speech in german and it has "on to victory" in it wouldnt that be cool to play since its our slogan?"

but apparently some of the kids were throwing around 'nigger' and other terms at some of the players on the field

what kind of dumbass school doesnt hear hitler on the PA and immediately go "oh shit" and run up and turn that shit off

11/8/2006 12:06:51 PM

This is complete overreaction.

Forfeit the game and end the season? Please.

People quote Julius Caesar all the time, and he killed millions of people.

[Edited on November 8, 2006 at 12:48 PM. Reason : all soccer should be canceled anyway though. ]

11/8/2006 12:48:18 PM

wasn't there an instance in California where some muslim school was made to change their mascot because it envoked present-day fears?

I think they were called the "Muslim Marauders" or something like that...

11/8/2006 12:50:15 PM

maybe if these complainers took "on to victory" as a personal motto, they wouldn't be such crybabies

11/8/2006 1:22:17 PM

waaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Let them play soccer. Who gives a shit? Its not like they were doing Nazi salutes and wearing swatztikas on their jerseys or dressing up as Hitler.

"On to victory" is not the same as "kill Jews."

I mean, this whole thing is really really stupid, but the pverreaction is even dumber.

11/8/2006 2:26:28 PM

^agreed

11/8/2006 2:42:40 PM

completely stupid thing to do, maybe a public apology

but forfeit the season? I blame this woman:

11/8/2006 2:48:41 PM

atleast they didn't rape a stripper

11/8/2006 3:25:20 PM

Random Trivia:

During WWI the Germans and British stopped fighting on christmas eve and played soccer.

11/8/2006 3:37:13 PM

i knew that :o

11/8/2006 3:51:00 PM

http://www.charlotte.com/mld/charlotte/news/15966278.htm

11/9/2006 3:15:21 PM

^^^ I think the Germans won 3-2 in a soccer match they played

11/9/2006 3:19:07 PM

I went to Forestview....














Unfortunately

11/9/2006 3:40:48 PM

http://www.newsobserver.com/122/story/508294.html

11/9/2006 4:12:38 PM

this is retarded. the speech was in german...these douchebags dont even know what was said

11/9/2006 4:14:26 PM

Rome just had this on his final burn

11/9/2006 5:00:28 PM