http://www.offroaders.com/tech/snake-oil.htm

sound kosher?

11/6/2006 12:37:47 PM

thats true, most additives are bs, all they are is detergents and other miscelanious chemicals, just substitute a quart of oil with a quart of lucas, lucas and seafoam are the only things i trust in my truck.

11/6/2006 2:09:10 PM

whats so great about lucas compared to the ones in the article?

11/14/2006 5:40:51 PM

i love it when people diss additives, then suggest their favorite brand

11/14/2006 5:45:37 PM

fuck oil additives, i just run straight mobil 1, but i would like to see a good run-down on fuel system cleaners, because i know they work, but which ones work the best?

11/16/2006 10:11:54 AM

i didnt read it, bit i know for a fact its not interesting. false thread advertising.

11/16/2006 10:36:54 AM

hahahaaa

My vehicles run on straight dreams and rainbows, no additives.

[Edited on November 16, 2006 at 11:00 AM. Reason : .]

11/16/2006 10:58:54 AM

omg that was a lot of reading.

the short version (majority of it is quoted from http://www.offroaders.com/tech/snake-oil.htm, so don't sue me):

Remember, PTFE in oil additives is a suspended solid. Now think about why you have an oil filter on your engine. To remove suspended solids, right? Right. Therefore it would seem to follow that if your oil filter is doing its job, it will collect as much of the PTFE as possible, as quickly as possible. This can result in a clogged oil filter and decreased oil pressure throughout your engine.

In addition, oil analysis showed that iron contamination doubled after using the treatment, indicating that engine wear didn't go down -- it appeared to shoot up.

Purveyors of the new zinc-related products claim they can prove absolute superiority over the PTFE-related products. Naturally, the PTFE crowd claim exactly the same, in reverse.

high zinc content can lead to deposit formation on your valves, and spark plug fouling

Detergents and solvents are designed to do just the opposite of what the PTFE and zinc phosphate additives claim to do. Instead of leaving behind a "coating" or a "plating" on your engine surfaces, they are designed to strip away such things.

All of these products will strip sludge and deposits out and clean up your engine, particularly if it is an older, abused one. The problem is, unless you have some way of determining just how much is needed to remove your deposits without going any further, such solvents also can strip away the boundary lubrication layer provided by your oil. Overuse of solvents is an easy trap to fall into, and one which can promote harmful metal-to-metal contact within your engine.


Conclusion: Don't use them. Go synthetic instead.

The End

[Edited on November 17, 2006 at 6:43 PM. Reason : .]

11/17/2006 6:35:44 PM