Whats your vote?
Keep a running tally, so do some addition.



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10/28/2006 11:20:09 PM

he's ibtl

10/28/2006 11:21:16 PM

OUT.

still waiting to see Randy show up to call us all "wet blankets" like the Chuck cock-sucker he is.

10/28/2006 11:21:20 PM

on the fence

10/28/2006 11:22:08 PM

out

10/28/2006 11:23:51 PM

out. I was on his side before the UMD loss. He's loathes success like Herb Sendek.

[Edited on October 28, 2006 at 11:33 PM. Reason : sdf]

10/28/2006 11:32:14 PM

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"Keep a running tally, so do some addition."

Right now its...

In: 0
Out: 4
Maybe: 1
Retarded: hcnguyen



[Edited on October 28, 2006 at 11:35 PM. Reason : .]

10/28/2006 11:33:58 PM

IN!

10/28/2006 11:39:01 PM

don't count ^his vote, he's a fucking pirate fan

[Edited on October 28, 2006 at 11:40 PM. Reason : fd]

10/28/2006 11:40:24 PM

We need a jump start from something

If it takes Chuck being out, then so be it. we have the talent to win.

10/28/2006 11:42:16 PM

We gave Herb 10 years why not give Chuck 10. He is bringing in alot of talent if he can just get a solid O-line we will be ok


IN

10/28/2006 11:44:44 PM

^dammit man get your head out of the clouds.

we had a good o-line and maybe the best ACC QB ever for four years and chuck's best ACC finish was 4th place. he is a terrible coach. without Phil he is 1 game under .500.

[Edited on October 28, 2006 at 11:46 PM. Reason : fhsd]

10/28/2006 11:46:06 PM

whine whine whine

i hate chuck and this coaching staff as much as the next guy, but he's an alumnus. good luck getting rid of him. bitching about records on the internet may be enough to get some random fuck like herb to quit, but amato is here to stay until he starts performing like bunting, and as long as chuck keeps us medocre or better, they wont touch him.

10/28/2006 11:52:15 PM

until he starts performing like bunting?

10/28/2006 11:54:14 PM

yeah, fuck internet discussions on a damned message board.

what a stupid, far-fetched concept.

you asshole.

[Edited on October 28, 2006 at 11:55 PM. Reason : fhsd]

10/28/2006 11:55:20 PM

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"some random fuck like herb"

are you drunk?

10/29/2006 12:03:13 AM

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"until he starts performing like bunting?"

he still has a winning record overall, and until that changes you can forget them firing him

and you need to get off my ass today, statefan. this whole "fire chuck" mentality is a fucking joke on this site and you know it.

10/29/2006 12:03:59 AM

out

10/29/2006 12:06:13 AM

get off your ass?

i called you out on one dumbass statement in another thread (unrelated to chuck) and then you wandered in on this thread speaking against internet discussion.

go jump off a building.

10/29/2006 12:07:14 AM

He's out in my books.

10/29/2006 12:09:51 AM

im not speaking against internet discussion, im against dumb shit like this where theres 50 topics all about how bad chuck is and they're all as inept as the last

and yeah, thats real effective, telling me to jump off a building. you win the internet.

10/29/2006 12:10:04 AM

I love Chuck Amato and he would kick your ass if you said any of this to his face.

10/29/2006 12:16:41 AM

i know i win. you say "get off my ass" as if i've been trolling you all day, when the fact is i called you out on one dumbass statement and you were the one that trolled me in this thread.

[Edited on October 29, 2006 at 12:21 AM. Reason : sd]

10/29/2006 12:21:13 AM

i wasnt fucking trolling you jackass, my comment was to the topic creator.

10/29/2006 12:22:33 AM

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"you win the internet."

hahahahhaha that shit is so funny!!

10/29/2006 12:23:35 AM

^^ok but it definitely looked like it was at me as it was right after my post coupled with you saying something about "bitching about records" and I was the only one that mentioned anything about chuck's awful awful abysmal post-rivers record in this thread.

10/29/2006 12:32:09 AM

IN

10/29/2006 1:02:22 AM

BALLS!!!!!!!!!!!111111

10/29/2006 1:34:26 AM

You guys are all fucking morons. Yes Chuck is the head coach, and works mainly with the defense, and we have an excellent defense. if you want to talking about a new coach or firing one...talk about Trestman.

10/29/2006 1:48:43 AM

Chuck Amato has my support as head coach. It is not his fault that we've had some struggles this year. Amato is NC State and will be, whether you like it or not. He is IN.

10/29/2006 2:33:11 AM

IN

10/29/2006 3:23:01 AM

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"until he starts performing like bunting?"

Oh, you mean like beating your rival two years in a row? As soon as we get a 2-game winning streak against UNC, Chuck's out!!!

10/29/2006 8:28:17 AM

"He has had a bad year"


"as long as he keeps us mediocre"


Actually he has had a bad 3 years, and in my book, has shown that the first four years were a product of Philip Rivers, not Chuck Amato.

Mike O'Cain, our last football coach, was fired in 1999 after a 6-6 season in which the AD and the administration decided that mediocrity was not acceptable at NC State. Just to note, Mike O'Cain was widely seen as one of the classiest and most respected men in the profession (not as as coach, as a person). His final three years and notable wins during that time...

1997= 6-5 Win @ #10 Syracuse
1998= 7-5 Wins vs #2 FSU, vs #11 Syracuse
1999= 6-6 Win @ #13 Texas


Compared to Amato's last three years

2004= 5-6 No notable wins
2005= 7-5 Win @ #15 FSU
2006= 3-5 No notable wins

O'Cains record was 19-16, and Amato's is 15-16. The precedent has been set. Mediocre doesn't cut it.

10/29/2006 8:55:38 AM

in, he gets 2 more years imo

10/29/2006 9:01:18 AM

only if we could get cowher

10/29/2006 9:24:03 AM

at this point, considering we have only have 2 games that we shouldn't lose on the schedule (and who knows with the way this team has played)... he's probably Out...

10/29/2006 9:53:08 AM

Chuck Amato's ACC Record
* 23- 25 overall ACC record.
* Winning record against 2 ACC programs - Wake Forest and Duke.
* .500 record against 4 ACC programs.
* Losing record against 5 ACC programs.
* 11-5 vs the Big Four

Chuck's Record Broken Down by Team
0-1 vs Boston College
2-4 vs Clemson
4-0 vs Duke
3-3 vs Florida State
2-4 vs Georgia Tech
2-5 vs Maryland
0-1 vs Miami
3-3 vs North Carolina
2-3 vs Virginia
1-1 vs Virginia Tech
4-3 vs Wake Forest

i broke it down here http://www.evankroberts.com/2006/09/chuck-amato-force-or-farce.html

10/29/2006 9:57:10 AM

Out If I have anything to do with it. Happy Thanksgiving!

10/29/2006 10:00:17 AM

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"* 11-5 vs the Big Four"

here, here. you people forget how well he did at first against carolina. we can get that fire back this year when we beat them.

also: http://www.redandwhitefromstate.com/article.php?story=20061028115950505

you people need to stop being so quick to place blame on the easy targets. stop hating amato just because of his appearence and other non-football related things. if he hires this man, and i think he will, then we will get the final piece in place to be great, truly great.

[Edited on October 29, 2006 at 10:07 AM. Reason : .]

10/29/2006 10:04:15 AM

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" "He has had a bad year" "as long as he keeps us mediocre" Actually he has had a bad 3 years, and in my book, has shown that the first four years were a product of Philip Rivers, not Chuck Amato. Mike O'Cain, our last football coach, was fired in 1999 after a 6-6 season in which the AD and the administration decided that mediocrity was not acceptable at NC State. Just to note, Mike O'Cain was widely seen as one of the classiest and most respected men in the profession (not as as coach, as a person). His final three years and notable wins during that time... 1997= 6-5 Win @ #10 Syracuse 1998= 7-5 Wins vs #2 FSU, vs #11 Syracuse 1999= 6-6 Win @ #13 Texas Compared to Amato's last three years 2004= 5-6 No notable wins 2005= 7-5 Win @ #15 FSU 2006= 3-5 No notable wins O'Cains record was 19-16, and Amato's is 15-16. The precedent has been set. Mediocre doesn't cut it."

10/29/2006 10:07:20 AM

^^keep dreaming, dumbass. I bet you were a sendek supporter, too. One day when you grow up and become a real boy, you'll learn the concept of sell high.

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"EVroccck i broke it down here http://www.evankroberts.com/2006/09/chuck-amato-force-or-farce.html"

Perhaps you should spell check this shit so it doesn't read like a moron wrote it.

[Edited on October 29, 2006 at 10:12 AM. Reason : sdf]

10/29/2006 10:09:31 AM

O'Cain had 2 horrible seasons, i mean just HORRIBLE

we were never in big games with him. chuck keeps us in big games. you're a fool if you think Mike Cocaine is as good or better than amato. with ocain we would have lost by 50 yesterday, but with amato, we were in the game all along, as usual. we need the final piece, and the final piece is NOT MARC TRESTMAN.

I was absolutely NOT a sendek supporter. that man was an embarassment. no fire and he underacheived for nc state basketball. compare amato's bowl record to past nc state coaches. compare herb's ncaa tournament record to past coaches. amato is the best postseason fb coach for nc state ever. herb was the worst coach not named les robinson to ever coach at nc state. its all relative.

[Edited on October 29, 2006 at 10:13 AM. Reason : .]

10/29/2006 10:11:16 AM

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"cali_j2004: only if we could get cowher "

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"Cowher buys in Raleigh Coach's trust purchases home Sam LaGrone and Chip Alexander, Staff Writer With a Super Bowl ring newly snug on his finger, Pittsburgh Steelers coach Bill Cowher has little reason to leave Pittsburgh. But he and his family appear to be planning for a future in Raleigh. A trust managed by his sports agency has purchased a $2.5 million home in an upscale neighborhood in North Raleigh, according to documents on file with the Wake County Register of Deeds. The MLL Revocable Trust is managed by Frank Zecca, vice president of Octagon Financial Services in McLean, Va. The initials "MLL" may correspond to the first initials of Cowher's three daughters: Meagan, Lauren and Lindsay. Cowher, 48, has strong ties to North Carolina. He played linebacker at N.C. State in the late 1970s. His defensive coach was Chuck Amato, now the Wolfpack's head coach. Cowher's wife, the former Kaye Young, and her twin sister, Faye, were members of the Pack women's basketball team then and the sisters still have family in Bunn. The Cowhers also own a summer home on Bald Head Island. Kaye Cowher didn't confirm the family had purchased the North Raleigh house but said the family plans to live in Raleigh at some point. "It's where we want to settle down. Raleigh is where we want to be," she said in a recent interview. "It's where we went to school, we have family and great friends there, and it's a wonderful city. We're looking into real estate there." Estate planners can conceal residency or ownership for certain properties by creating trusts or companies to be named in public records. Zecca would not comment on who would occupy the house. Likewise, home builder Don Collins would not comment on the buyer. "I don't have to give out any information on anyone who buys my houses," Collins said. The 7,400-square-foot house sits on 1.55 acres off of Norwood Road in North Raleigh. According to the house's listing, it has five bedrooms, a built-in wet-bar, a whirlpool, a swimming pool and garage space for four cars."

10/29/2006 10:12:42 AM

I dont know how people can compare Chuck to Herb. With Herb we finished second in the ACC at one point, with Chuck weve never finished higher than 4th.

10/29/2006 10:21:53 AM

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"One day when you grow up and become a real boy, you'll learn the concept of sell high."

10/29/2006 10:25:39 AM

compare how they fare when it really matters.

herb's postseason record is shameful. amato's is the best in nc state history.

10/29/2006 10:26:17 AM

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"0-1 vs Boston College"

...

okay you've lost all credibility

10/29/2006 10:28:32 AM

get his ass out of here

10/29/2006 10:43:41 AM

[/quote]O'Cain had 2 horrible seasons, i mean just HORRIBLE

we were never in big games with him. chuck keeps us in big games. you're a fool if you think Mike Cocaine is as good or better than amato. with ocain we would have lost by 50 yesterday, but with amato, we were in the game all along, as usual. we need the final piece, and the final piece is NOT MARC TRESTMAN.
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I know all about Mike O'Cain. We had season tickets every year and I witnessed every game. But it is painfully obvious now that the program is not better than where it was in 1999. The object of football is not to stay close, it is to win. That is not happening right now.

First the problem was Mazzone, now the problem is Trestman. Who hired them? Who has failed to keep a consistent assistant coaching staff?

The talent level is way up from 1999, but the results are the same. To me, that says the coaching has gone down.

Everything being said, Amato is not better than O'Cain. O'Cain was fired, and Amato should be also.

10/29/2006 10:51:35 AM

Chuck is a terrible coach and should be demoted.

If the man couldn't recruit, we'd have absolutely nothing.

10/29/2006 10:53:13 AM