any clue what structures she may use on the first test? i heard if you go to her office the day before she will sometimes show you the test, but i have class all day and then work til 7pm If anyone goes PLEASE let me know
(I could even throw in some brownies for your efforts )

9/21/2006 7:57:29 AM

in the back of the coursepack, there is a list of the structures starting with amino acids.
learn those including 2,4-dinitroflurobenzene through pyridoxal (8 or so).

use those tests too

9/21/2006 3:13:18 PM

she puts 2 or 3 structures on the first page, you have to choose one according to the last digit of your Student ID number.. you must memorize all 8

Oh, Question 2 will be an Amino Acid linkage.. make sure you draw all bonds and put in ALL Hydrogens, nothing is assumed

If i remember correctly, ? 3 is a math problem and the rest is just random shit she puts together.

Know what at buffer is.. or a puffer as she says

9/21/2006 4:48:56 PM

yea i have the old tests and all, i was just wondering if there was any way to narrow down the structures to memorize...there is just way too many!!!

9/21/2006 4:58:56 PM

old tests = all you need

no reason why you shouldn't make at least an A- in her class w/ old tests.. if you do make less than that then you fucked yourself

9/21/2006 5:01:24 PM

yeah i have it tommorow as well.. looking at some of the old tests it does seem like most of the stuff is somewhat repetitive. Hope it remains the same for this test.. way too much to memorize

9/21/2006 5:07:59 PM

there are only 28 structures to memorize for ths test exam
20 of which you only really have to memorize the side chain (R)
-7 of those you have to memorize the pKa of the side chains

its not too much, plus your gonna have to know it all for the next exam, and the next, and the next.
btw, her idea of a dry erase board really works.

9/21/2006 5:34:23 PM

28?? there are the 20 amino acids, but there are a lot more than 8 others in KKW for common organic structures...are there only some that we need to know...or dont we need to know all 36...pg 20-23?????

9/21/2006 6:17:31 PM

Memorize from the start of the list down to pyroxidal. By the way, Knopp's Knotes has a mnemoic aid section for the amino acids on page 32 if you're still having trouble with them.

9/21/2006 6:20:11 PM

where is pyroxidal? i know i am probably just being stupid...but hey i have had 4 other tests this week

9/21/2006 6:40:39 PM

pg 37, 38, and the top 2 of 39 (not the crossed out one)

Quote :

"learn those including 2,4-dinitroflurobenzene through pyridoxal (8 or so). "

9/21/2006 6:59:45 PM

yea i wish it was that easy...i have been looking at the old tests and the structures that you are asked to draw on question 1 come out of the 30 chem structures in KKW on pg 21-23 and are not on that list of 8 in the course pack

9/21/2006 7:19:50 PM

I TA'ed this class for two semesters. My best advice is to know everything that she goes over, and especially follow the handouts she gave at the start of the course. You can ask her for copies of previous tests, I believe, and practice on those. Practice, practice, practice.... flash cards can help too.

Good luck

9/21/2006 7:20:07 PM

Quote :

"i was just wondering if there was any way to narrow down the structures to memorize...there is just way too many!!!"

Like people have said, there really aren't too many. Just give yourself enough time to practice them.

If you do that, the structures are one of the easiest parts of the tests.

9/21/2006 7:49:10 PM

you will all get raped by her final exam

so you better do well on her tests.

9/21/2006 8:57:19 PM

wow thanks...you are really building my confidence

9/21/2006 9:05:29 PM

everybody bombs it. i bombed it. got an A-

9/21/2006 11:48:10 PM

i am sure if you go more than a day before the test you will be fine. gasp go 2 days before.

9/22/2006 1:42:27 AM

i am so screwed.

9/22/2006 2:12:54 AM

good morning bch students

9/22/2006 8:29:59 AM

9/22/2006 10:39:16 AM

Quote :

"put in ALL Hydrogens,"

single biggest pain in that class....

followed by needing word for word definitions... no such thing as synonym's in that class...

9/25/2006 9:38:53 AM

did she hand back exams in class?

9/25/2006 12:04:24 PM

PR sessions I believe

9/25/2006 12:51:29 PM

shoulda taken Knopp's class

9/29/2006 5:54:48 PM

nvm

[Edited on September 29, 2006 at 6:23 PM. Reason : ]

9/29/2006 5:56:26 PM

just go to the library when ppl are studying for the exam and ask for a copy or 2

9/30/2006 2:25:15 PM

anyone have any copies of the old tests for the upcoming exam?

11/30/2006 7:29:02 AM

i have 5 semester's worth

11/30/2006 8:11:10 AM

^take it you aren't willing to share what is on them?

11/30/2006 8:21:09 AM

^he was in the class a year ago

11/30/2006 8:34:38 AM

ncsugirl84, check your PM

11/30/2006 11:36:23 AM

the day before?

you people are stupid

11/30/2006 5:13:33 PM

damn

12/1/2006 10:38:31 AM

I had loads of fun on that one.

12/1/2006 11:01:30 AM

Haha, I was "done" with the exam about 20 minutes into it. I really don't want to get this one back.

12/1/2006 1:16:09 PM