So for the past 6 weeks I've been working at a job where my boss is a complete and utter bitch. I've only stayed because I have student loans to pay off and I have a vacation planned in January that I was gauranteed off at this place.

Anyway, my boss is a bitch. She is condescending, hypocritical, incompetant, and rude. I've been able to stomach her thus far just on the idea that I will have a great vacation in January, and then I can quit and get another job.

Yesterday I found out that she used to be a client of some good friends of mine 2 years ago. Turns out she stiffed them out of about $600 worth of services, ignored legal letters, and claimed she was moving across the country, so they decided it wasnt worth it to pursue. All of this was a lie. Once I found that out, today was much different than my usual "I hate my boss" days. I found myself literally wanting to kick her in the face.

So my question is, is it a smart idea to quit right now without anything lined up? If it's not, do companies hire people that have planned vacations in 4 months? If thats a no too, how the hell do I deal with this woman?! I need ALL the help I can get.

8/17/2006 7:18:30 PM

Blackmail?

8/17/2006 7:19:38 PM

She'll deny it and then tell me how unprofessional I am and remind me of how I'm on my "probational period and need to shape up"

This coming from the woman who, after my second day of work, handed me the master key and left me alone for the entire weekend to manage the place, then came in Monday complaining about how "Nothing that you needed to get done got done"

8/17/2006 7:24:44 PM

I'm sure you could find another job that will let you have some time off 4 months later.

8/17/2006 7:39:24 PM

Repayment of student loans is the least of all worries regarding keeping a job that you hate. Day to day living will make you hurt more when unemployed.

If you find yourself miserable in your activities, especially as a result of your job, then you will end up spending more money trying to keep yourself happy and not be as productive at work especially with such a strong conflict.

You can defer your loans for a couple of months as you change jobs, and it will be worth it in the long run not to get involved in this drama and just find something where you can excel.

If you can resolve the issues, then it's worth it, but there are still plenty of jobs available where it shouldn't be necessary to abuse yourself just for wages.

8/17/2006 11:26:02 PM

Blackmail?

8/17/2006 11:31:19 PM

I was in this same situation about 4 months ago, my boss was a complete an utter dick, who lacked professionalism and was rude to me for no reason every chance he had

I quit the job after a while, I wasn't getting paid that much, and it just wasn't worth it...

but if I were you..I'd stick it out until the vacation is over..mho

8/17/2006 11:31:47 PM

I used to have a boss who was completely rude to me for no reason.

I realized it's because she thought I was an arrogant prick, and I always felt like I was on thin ice with her. One day she sent me some really rude stuff over the computer that was just very curt, and it struck a chord with me.

I was about to tell he to fuck off, in writing at that, and I held back.


Some people are very much about implicit authority. I think that most people who act like assholes when they're bosses are just experiencing a lack the security in the knowledge that they are indeed the boss, so they take it out by being mean.

If you try kissing their asses a few more times even when unwarranted, you can turn the whole relationship around. Once she realized I did respect her and figured out her personality, it was a great working environment.

8/17/2006 11:36:05 PM

^See, I started off respecting her and have lost all respect due to how she treats me. Even my co-worker has said "Wow, it really makes me mad how she treats you and expects you to know everything" without my prompting.

I was going to go your route and try to work around her personality and see what works best, but after finding out what she did to my friends, I don't feel like that is an option anymore. Not only do I detest her as a boss, but now I detest her as a person.

I'm just a little unsure what to do, because I honestly don't think I can deal with her anymore

8/17/2006 11:57:22 PM

Sounds like you've already made up your mind and are just afraid to take that step. You can only do your best. Never let money control your self respect.

8/18/2006 12:01:08 AM

Send her new contact info to your friends.

8/18/2006 1:22:02 AM

how long is your vacation? I've had a couple of jobs where I stated at the beginning that I needed to have a certain week off a couple of months down the road because I have already made the plans. They were pretty cool with it. Although you may or may not get paid for that time off. Now if you are taking a month long vacation, that may be a different story.

8/18/2006 8:22:21 AM

what kind of job do you have?

8/18/2006 8:27:38 AM

really nothing thats amazing. i work in the leasing industry

8/18/2006 8:39:13 AM

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"Send her new contact info to your friends."

hell yes, as long it's not past statute of limitations

8/18/2006 8:47:59 AM

Works in the leasing industry and screwed people over? And she's still working? Sounds like a conflict of interest.

Pass along her contact information and get someone higher up to hear out the case. Then take her to small claims court. She'll end up losing her job, and then maybe you can even get promoted because of the new vacancy over your head. Your friends will also get their money if it's a good case.

I think this option is a strong investment, and you solve all your problems in one move.

8/18/2006 9:08:53 AM

And one more thing. Don't involve yourself too heavily in it because then she'll hate you more if she finds out you're behind it.



The most important thing is to get your friends to raise questions and cause difficulties even if they don't win because if it's enough of a public issue to question her business ethic, then her career will be dead in the water enough that the boss won't last anyway.

8/18/2006 9:15:20 AM

take a dump on her floor.

8/18/2006 9:21:40 AM

^^I like this guy's ideas.

[Edited on August 18, 2006 at 9:23 AM. Reason : ^^]

8/18/2006 9:23:22 AM

^ agreed

8/18/2006 10:36:08 AM

1) Contact your friends about her location
2) Make sure you have a list of your responsibilities of your job.
3) Meet those responsibilities or make the effort to ask to be trained on them and do it in writing (email).
4) It's a right to work state. She has the right to fire you and you have the right to collect unemployment .

5) Contact your HR department about harrassment from her. You'll be amazed how nice she'll be. If she fires you you can sue the company. If she is not treating you with respect let her know that her tone is disrespective and if she wanted you to know how to do it then she should have trained shown you. That's her responsibility.

6) If she fires you claim it because you refused to tolerate her harassing behavior.

8/18/2006 10:37:05 AM

^
#s 4 5 and 6 are exactly whats wrong with America today...bunch of sue happy pansies.

Thats why I like having illegals here...will work twice as hard for half the money.

8/18/2006 10:42:11 AM

no, i disagree. suing the company wouldn't be frivolous because she has a legitimate complaint here.

8/18/2006 10:49:50 AM

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"Yesterday I found out that she used to be a client of some good friends of mine 2 years ago. Turns out she stiffed them out of about $600 worth of services, ignored legal letters, and claimed she was moving across the country"

Whatever you do with regards to your job, just make sure you contact your friends and get her in to trouble for this. But, do it after you quit, whenever that is. And after you quit and have contacted your friends, and they have initiated legal procedures, contact your bitch boss by phone or mail, and say something like "bitch you are fucked".

8/18/2006 6:38:09 PM

it's never smart to quit without something lined up or a pretty fat savings account

8/18/2006 7:05:34 PM

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" contact your bitch boss by phone or mail, and say something like "bitch you are fucked"."

Don't do this.

8/18/2006 7:12:42 PM

didnt read the thread

go talk to her and be like omg i didnt know you knew so and so-- they're really good friends of mine

she'll either start being nicer

or find out a reason to fire you & you can get unemployment for 6 months

also i'd call your friends and tell her where she works/lives if they dont know-- maybe they'll start with the legal action again if they still can

8/20/2006 12:59:41 AM

Send her contact information to your friends, obviously your loyalties lie with them over her.

8/20/2006 1:33:49 AM

you do realize that bringing up her past financial issues, esp. if they are a personal and non-business in nature, in an arguement or a means of trying to help your job situation is very unprofessional and borderline unethical. the way you describe it, pretty much comes across as being essentially gossip from privledged information source shared to you unprofessionally through an aquaintance.

your best bet with this is to forget you have gained this information and dont let it enter into your workplace dealings with the woman. your friends firm or whatever should take the proper action that their company perscribes for such a situation. it sounds like they have and have come to a conclusion in the matter. you however, have absolutely no professional ground with which to stand to even mention that you somehow found out about this.

this is rather striking that knowing this about her changes your opinion about her in the workplace.

oh, and if you happen to bring this up and it starts some sort of conflict, good luck attempting to file a wrongful termination suit. chances are you had to sign an ethical agreement when you started your job, however meaningless it may be. most places now have very extensive language and documentation over offenses that are punishable by termination of employment, and it is made aware to employees also. ethical and professional standards apply here.

8/20/2006 1:44:58 AM

I didn't read anything except the first post

but

if your friends are flipping out over $600 in services

I mean

it's $600

8/20/2006 2:27:03 AM

You should pull an "Office Space" and just not give a shit anymore. Show up to work and do whatever you want, the worst thing that can happen is that you get fired, but since you don't want to work there anyway, it's a win win.

8/20/2006 4:30:47 AM