6/15/2006 8:49:43 PM
He murdered hundreds of Philippino Citizens! He should have been tried and executed! Why the fuck did the Philippino administrators turn him over to the Japanese? Whether he knew the war was over or not he reasonably should have, therefore it is at least negligent homicide, imprisonment for life.
6/15/2006 9:07:23 PM
link
6/15/2006 10:01:23 PM
It said he murdered 30 people.I agree with the pardon though. It seems the guy has made the better of his remaining life, and he really thought they were at war.
6/15/2006 10:02:08 PM
Weird. I just finished his autobiography last week. As a history/psychology major it was fascinating.Actually a pretty interesting story. They saw numerous fliers that had been dropped for them. Some included personal messages from family members and even included a picture of their familes. They were able to ignore them when they didn't recognize the houses behind their family, assuming that the pictures were allied propaganda. Of course they didn't know that they were new houses built after the US destroyed all major Japanese cities.They also saw various newspapers but also ignored parts regarding the aftermath of the war, explaining it as misinformation inserted into an otherwise legitimate newspaper by allied secret service agents. They even ignored numerous search parties lead by the Japanese government. At one point Onoda's brother came to Lubang and called to him over a loudspeaker. Onoda saw him and noted that his voice and appearance were exactly like his brothers, but told himself that it was a look-a-like that the Allies were using to bait him into surrendering.Oddly enough, the psychological aspect reminded me exactly of salisburyboy.
6/15/2006 11:06:36 PM
http://www.damninteresting.com/Very interesting site. Has abunch of interesting factual stories/events.
6/15/2006 11:28:52 PM
...Well shit!
6/15/2006 11:48:57 PM
one part of the wolf?
6/15/2006 11:51:31 PM
my favorite duran duran song is "Hungry like the World"ps, Damn Interesting is a great siteBigMan157 introduced me to it
6/16/2006 12:00:43 AM
6/16/2006 12:53:37 AM
^ we must destroy the dirty japs
6/16/2006 1:03:09 AM
^^ If this guy gets prosecuted, than any soldier in any war that we can find should get prosecuted. What if other countries started calling for the arrests of our troops?War, as ridiculous and absurd as it is, has certain rules.
6/16/2006 1:06:21 AM
he's not alone either, many isolated japanese troops held out for a few years, i believe he was just the one to do so for the longest. The japanese had an insane zealousy during WW2, so it is no suprise to me that many of them did so following the end of the war.
6/16/2006 2:54:28 AM
don't want to set a bad precedent of prosecuting soldiers for doing that they were told to do
6/16/2006 3:13:22 AM
^^^ If a U.S. soldier in Iraq refused visits from his commander, his sister, numerous newspapers, repeated notification, and still believed the war was on and went ahead and killed 30 unarmed Iraqi civilians then yes, he should be prosecuted. Even if you believe his acts of war should be excused surely the fact that his murderous rampage killed almost only unarmed civilians dictates that he should be tried for warcrimes.
6/16/2006 8:26:39 AM
^ Onoda was told specifically not to make a move until he heard from his one commanding officer and that the war may take 100 years.The people that he killed were armed members of filipino search parties that fired upon his group. For the most part they hid in the mountains on the large southern end of the island and avoided contact at all costs. Onoda himself stated that he would fire about 15 bullets per year, and that most of those were to kill cattle or were fired into the air to scare off villagers when they would make forays into civilization. They weren't preying on civilian filipinos, rather they were trying to scare people away from the south end of Lubang, as they assumed that the large uninhabited end would be the ideal place for japanese troops to land when they retook the island.
6/16/2006 2:22:11 PM
skokiaan:
6/16/2006 2:33:49 PM
(assuming that their orders did not violate the laws of war)
6/16/2006 2:52:19 PM
Sounds like he's a loyal soldier, but he has way too much faith in allied propaganda. I think after the 9000th clue, the lookaalike brother, the barage of newspapers that were reporting on daily life and not the war, I may come down from my hiding spot and check it out even if I was risking my life.
6/16/2006 3:39:39 PM
^ Yeah, at some point he left 'loyal soldier' and entered salisburyboy country.I'm not sure if you could prosecute someone whose state of mind was a result of imperial japanese indoctrination and living in the jungle for 30 years.
6/16/2006 3:48:16 PM
According to the History Channel documentary there were several instances that he felt the locals just weren't "getting it" so he would make a show of force which a few times resulted in the killing of a villager. Also, there were several "food and supply" raids where the owners came home to discover their stuff being stollen only to then get shot themselves. Not to mention the dozens of unexplained deaths on the island that he says he didn't do. Of course, it is kinda odd that he claims to have stopped killing so much as soon as his last companion and witness left. He is a criminal and should be treated as one.[Edited on June 16, 2006 at 4:21 PM. Reason : .,.,]
6/16/2006 4:18:56 PM
^ LoneSnark is a retard and should be treated as one
6/16/2006 4:28:21 PM
Yeah, this guy's no criminal. Just a confused soldier
6/16/2006 8:59:20 PM
Japanese policy intentionally left soldiers behind on islands to conduct guerilla warfare just like Onoda in the hopes that the tide would turn in Japan's favor and that they would be able to retake the islands.Heres a list of other holdouts. The last to surrender was in 1980.http://www.wanpela.com/holdouts/list.html
6/16/2006 9:11:19 PM
6/17/2006 5:34:49 AM
^ Being Japanese
6/17/2006 6:29:20 AM
As it was an autobiography he didn't try to diagnose any type of disorder that he may have had. I would have been able to get specific about the psychological aspect a few years ago, but the heavy drinking that I have indulged in since graduating has destroyed the few remaining brain cells that I had left.It was mostly continual self delusionment supported by forced rationalizations of any conflicting information.
6/17/2006 1:44:31 PM