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I've eliminated caffine all together, but still only sleep 3-6 hours a night. Anyone got any of those home remedy ideas that theyve tried & that work?

5/14/2006 12:48:45 PM

exercise

5/14/2006 12:56:58 PM

regular sleep schedule

5/14/2006 1:01:21 PM

warm bath + http://somafm.com/

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5/14/2006 1:12:14 PM

go lay down

5/14/2006 1:16:32 PM

get some tyler exercise and chew durden some valerian root.

5/14/2006 1:18:37 PM

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"warm bath + http://somafm.com/"

i'd say warm shower + http://somafm.com/

but good call!

-ZiP!-

5/14/2006 1:20:25 PM

5/14/2006 1:27:55 PM

^^ great minds

5/14/2006 1:33:05 PM

good sex.

5/14/2006 2:31:37 PM

Excercise and read a book.

5/14/2006 2:36:09 PM

exercise+good sex


as you get closer to bed time, turn out all lights, turn the tv off and read/have sex. Don't stay in bed longer than 15 minutes awake, unless you are getting it on.

5/14/2006 2:48:41 PM

I usually rearrange me closets or do some type of house work. That makes me sleepy really quick.

5/14/2006 3:14:50 PM

Wear yourself out with exercise
Get a sleep routine together that involves unwinding and calming yourself down
glass of warm milk knocks me the fuck out
an Enya mixed CD
skip sleep for one night then crash the next day

5/14/2006 4:23:07 PM

exercise or masturbate

5/14/2006 5:57:55 PM

exercise or start reading a boring book

5/14/2006 6:10:06 PM

chamomile or green tea, or yoga.
or read a textbook.

5/14/2006 6:19:01 PM

^those are drugs .... if youre afraid of using drugs, youre afraid of dependency, so substances you ingest arent what the question is about

5/14/2006 6:22:55 PM

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"exercise or AND masturbate AT THE SAME TIME"

now that should get him

5/14/2006 7:47:03 PM

also if you watch tv in bed, stop.

5/14/2006 8:14:28 PM

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"exercise or masturbate"

If you are physically tired, you'll fall asleep easier. If you are still having trouble sleeping and are physically tired, you've got something on your mind which won't let you sleep easily ... take care of that if you can.

Also, the bed is for sex and for sleep ... don't read or do HW on it.

5/14/2006 8:16:08 PM

Take a melatonin right before bed

I know you said no-drug cures but this really isn't a "drug" its a naturally occuring substance in the body, the melatonin pill won't make you "sleepy" but it will help you fall asleep faster and keep you in a sounder sleep.

http://www.melatonin.com/

http://www.umm.edu/altmed/ConsSupplements/Melatonincs.html

5/14/2006 9:46:37 PM

^youll get a dependancy

its a drug.

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"its a naturally occuring substance in the body"

many drugs are

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5/14/2006 9:50:22 PM

You WILL NOT get a dependancy on MELATONIN. Ever.

Studys have demonstrated it doesn't have any impact on natural production of melatonin. If you take it, it does not effect the bodys production of it.

5/14/2006 9:57:50 PM

anything you take for sleep, even if it [physically does nothing, can cause a dependency

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5/14/2006 10:04:12 PM

that's the same as placebo effect. For that matter, if you believe that spinning around 3 times or eating an apple before going to bed will help you fall asleep you can become dependant on it.

5/14/2006 10:16:40 PM

and the placebo effect is real

5/14/2006 10:20:59 PM

yes, very much so. But it still doesn't change the fact that:

Melotonin chemically/physically NOT addicting/dependancy forming

Melatonin along with anything else CAN produce a psychological dependence (placebo effect)

5/14/2006 10:26:37 PM

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"Melotonin chemically/physically NOT addicting/dependancy forming"

if it works (physically) then it has to be addicting. youll need to keep taking it if you want to sleep. if you fix the problem, the actual issue, like perhaps a drug youre taking like caffene, or something else, or perhaps youre stressed which can resolved -- then you would have a permanent solution

5/14/2006 10:45:42 PM

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"I know you said no-drug cures but this really isn't a "drug" its a naturally occuring substance in the body"

so are ghb and pma and dmt, but trust me, they're drugs

5/14/2006 11:02:55 PM

One easy way to "take" melatonin is to turn off the lights. That will stimulate your brain to start secreting it into your bloodstream.

The pill lets you leave the lights on longer.

^notice the " " around "drug". I meant it as in this isn't like Lunesta or other prescription drugs that are can be addicting.

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5/14/2006 11:08:09 PM

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"an Enya mixed CD"

oh man that is some funny shit

5/14/2006 11:14:59 PM

that probably wasnt a joke

5/14/2006 11:29:12 PM

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"prescription drugs that are can be addicting."

there is a tendency to think 'supplements' are natural and have fewer side effects then FDA approved drugs. all this natural/herbal shit is not good for you just beacuase its 'natural'. melatonin is a powerful hormone and shouldnt be taken lightly.

if youre going to take an herb/drug/supplement for sleep or any disorder or disease, youre better off with a drug, they are studied much more, and a lot more is known about them.

5/14/2006 11:33:19 PM

Enya puts me the fuck out.

What about a something herbal like Valerian?

5/15/2006 3:11:16 AM

What about a sure fire way to wake up in the am.... i sleep thru my alarms often, it's hell for me.

5/15/2006 3:13:03 AM

drink a lot of water before bed so you have to get up to pee
use the college alarm clock (http://www.geocities.com/vinodtandon/cac/) and turn your speakers up to a high volume

5/15/2006 3:22:49 AM

Spritz lavender, vanilla or jasmine essential oils (or a blend of all three) on your pillow case or dab a bit under your nose at night. I hate the scent of jasmine and lavender but a mix of the two together totally knocks me out.

5/15/2006 3:43:16 AM