http://www.climatecrisis.net

turn your speakers up, and be sure not to let it blow your mind.

(watch the trailer too, in case you havent had your fill of al gore for today)

4/27/2006 8:38:45 AM

snakes on a plane

4/27/2006 10:44:35 AM

you can totally get down to that music

4/27/2006 5:16:17 PM

there's that nelly song too...

4/27/2006 5:23:31 PM

al gore looks suave in trailer

4/27/2006 5:49:26 PM

Global warming probably won’t make the Earth inhospitable for human life within my life time. A biological weapon could. Knowing global warming could kill the planet in the future isn’t such a big deal since there are many ways in which the planet is going to inevitably die anyways. Jupiter will eventually screw up our climate, our Sun will eventually die, and the moon is getting farther away which will screw things up. Ignoring the inevitables you have some problems that are possible, even if unlikely, like space debris crashing into us, or volcanic eruptions that mess up the climate. There are other issues like human ways of making the Earth inhospitable for life, or making life not worth while… causes like charity, feeding starving kids, opposing cruel governments, and promoting civil rights seem like equally good ways to go.

We can only slow down global warming, we have a yellow sun that’s going to keep getting hotter until it dies taking us with it, so things will keep getting warmer regardless of what we do. We can potentially stop terrorism. The trailer, with all its dramatic music, said more than once that global warming is the scariest problem out there, but I think while it’s a cause that deserves attention, it shouldn’t be claiming to be the main concern or the scariest thing out there.

Global warming will happen anyways.
Global warming probably wouldn’t kill the earth until after our life time.
The world will die in the future anyways.
We can’t completely stop global warming.
We can potentially stop other things that can destroy life or make it not worthwhile that could happen during out life times.

4/27/2006 5:53:22 PM

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"The world will die in the future anyways."

as soon as possible is prefferable huh.

4/28/2006 4:22:43 AM

Yes conservatives hate the world.

4/28/2006 9:46:15 AM

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" Knowing global warming could kill the planet in the future isn’t such a big deal since there are many ways in which the planet is going to inevitably die anyways. Jupiter will eventually screw up our climate, our Sun will eventually die, and the moon is getting farther away which will screw things up. "

The timescale for the stuff in the trailer is supposedly over the next 100-200 years or so. The timescale for jupiter or the sun screwing us up is on the order of millions (or billions) of years.

The video seems really FUDy, but that's what it takes to make people care sometimes.

[Edited on April 28, 2006 at 2:08 PM. Reason : ]

4/28/2006 2:08:16 PM

do people not agree that global warming is real now? please click on that site and listen to the music.

4/29/2006 5:42:18 AM

^yeah, I mean it's got Al Gore and he's serial.

4/29/2006 6:52:06 AM

i thought it was 'cereal'

4/29/2006 8:24:06 AM

Where the hell was this Al Gore in 2000? I will admit to being slightly bias since environmental issues are near and dear to me, but if he had shown just an ounce of this level of enthusiasm during the campaign then the past 5 years would have been VERY different.

By this point I doubt too many people are arguing whether global warming is taking place or not, but if humans can really have that much of an impact. Sadly there are people that still live under their money rocks and don't want to take responsibility for their actions.

4/29/2006 9:24:56 AM

Hardly a day goes by without a new dire warning about climate change. But some claims are more extreme than others, giving rise to fears that the problem is being oversold and damaging the issue.

How much has the planet warmed up over the past century? Most people reckon between two and three degrees. They are not even close. The real figure, according to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) is 0.6C.

It's not surprising most people get it wrong. We are bombarded by stories warning us that global warming is out of control. The most extreme warn us we will be living in a tropical Britain where malaria is rife and Norfolk has disappeared altogether.

Dr Hans Von Storch, a leading German climate scientist and fervent believer in global warming, is convinced the effect of climate change is being exaggerated.

"The alarmists think that climate change is something extremely dangerous, extremely bad and that overselling a little bit, if it serves a good purpose, is not that bad."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/4923504.stm

4/29/2006 9:33:54 AM

"as soon as possible is prefferable huh."

No, what I meant was that things that happen after I'm dead don't affect me that much.

4/29/2006 11:36:12 AM

there's definitely some exaggeration there - the implied connection between global warming and katrina, and the stuff about millions of refugees from the flooded cities...

it's not an issue to be taken lightly though.

4/29/2006 4:58:26 PM

^^Is it really that hard to care about what happens after you're dead?

[Edited on April 29, 2006 at 5:39 PM. Reason : (or for that matter, things that won't affect you directly but do / will affect others...]

4/29/2006 5:38:30 PM

^^^thats satanic thinking

4/29/2006 8:48:59 PM

shut the fuck up

there's no such thing as global warming

4/30/2006 4:25:51 PM

"^^Is it really that hard to care about what happens after you're dead?"

I never said I don't... but I did say that I'm not going to be freaked out by something that is both inevitable & not going to happen during my life time. My original point was just that it’s a cause worth addressing, but not calling the scariest thing ever which is almost the exact wording from the trailer.

4/30/2006 4:41:02 PM

Requiem for a Planet

4/30/2006 4:53:54 PM

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"inevitable & not going to happen during my life time"

youre wrong about both

4/30/2006 7:47:05 PM

“Global warming probably won’t make the Earth inhospitable for human life within my life time”

This was the point & 1st line of the post that you started attacking. (well part of the point, the whole point was that given that, calling this the scariest thing ever was over the top)

^Are you really telling me that if we continue along the same track that human life will die out in my life time? Or are you telling me you’ve been picking off parts of what I said so much that you forgot the original point of what I was saying?

Maybe you were hoping if you attacked the claim “global warming has no impact whatsoever” that I would take up defending that claim. But I’m not going to bite.

The Earth won't exist for ever (& at the very least won't remain hospitable for humans forever), & global warming most probably won’t make the world inhospitable for human life within my life time, thus saying global warming is the scariest thing ever in the trailer was over the top. I’m sticking with this. If you really thing I'm wrong on this then please explain how global warming will kill off human life within the next 80 years or so. But just be careful not to attack a claim that I never made.

4/30/2006 7:59:10 PM

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"global warming most probably won’t make the world inhospitable for human life within my life time"

why would you gamble on that? do you have something against this planet?

if you live another 50 years youll see it. major flooding will take place, NYC, florida, ect.

[Edited on April 30, 2006 at 8:09 PM. Reason : 0-.]

4/30/2006 8:03:23 PM

I won’t gamble on it, I’ll weigh in my votes candidate's positions on the environment. But as I don’t consider it the scariest thing ever, it won’t be the heaviest issue I weigh.

4/30/2006 8:09:15 PM

^ And I too will weigh it in with my voting choices. Any candidate which suggests using Global Warming as a justification for governmental policy loses my vote.

4/30/2006 9:41:45 PM

yes, for some people, wrecking our natural habitat is the number one priority.

4/30/2006 10:59:26 PM

^like our troops who are fighting against groups that supposedly had & wanted to use biological & nuclear weapons.

4/30/2006 11:13:42 PM

Aren't our cities already kinda smoggy? I mean, during the summer months, there are days when parents are advised to keep their children with asthma inside during the hottest parts of the day. I don't know if smog is related to global warming...but enviornmental stuff doesn't have to revolve around something that's going to happen years from now...we're experiencing quality of life problems already, right?

???

5/1/2006 12:01:03 AM

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"we're experiencing quality of life problems already, right?"

Almost all of which can be linked to poverty.

Rich people don't suffer from pollution, they have the resources to sue/lobby/move. As such, by making everyone wealthier we (the free markets) are working to eliminate the direct human effects of pollution.

5/1/2006 12:04:15 AM

^So we should all own vacation homes so we can leave the Raleigh during the summer?

5/1/2006 12:05:43 AM

How do North Carolina cities compare to other states as far as pollution goes?
(this question isn't supposed to be leading the thread to one or another side of an argument, i'm just curious if anyone knows that information off hand considering this kind of thread is likely to draw the attention of environmentalist types around ncsu)

5/1/2006 12:23:16 AM

^I know Raleigh, Charlotte, and Greensboro all made it into the top 50 or so cities for most difficult places to live with asthma.

5/1/2006 12:41:13 AM

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"As such, by making everyone wealthier we (the free markets) are working to eliminate the direct human effects of pollution."

hahahahahahhahahahahhahaah
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hahahahahhahahahahhahahaha

5/1/2006 12:47:21 AM

^I know, I know...he never ceases to amaze me with his theory bullshit.

5/1/2006 12:49:54 AM

THIS IS A NON ISSUE, IF YOU HAVE MONEY, YOULL BE FINE

5/1/2006 1:09:19 AM

how are you supposed to make money if you live alone in the woods? you either have to go to the cities sometimes or bring parts of the city to you.

5/1/2006 1:11:09 AM

What's needed is a new Captain Planet show. That'll learn 'em.

5/1/2006 1:12:36 AM

there were "new" episodes that aired like a week ago.

a 6th(?) season that never aired in the us before. i missed the marathon though

5/1/2006 1:16:26 AM

^I think they'll need new races.

5/1/2006 1:18:48 AM

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"how are you supposed to make money if you live alone in the woods? you either have to go to the cities sometimes or bring parts of the city to you. "

LoneSnark is guessing most of those people arent white.

5/1/2006 1:29:57 AM

I totally saved the world from Man Bear Pig

5/1/2006 1:45:51 AM

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"^So we should all own vacation homes so we can leave the Raleigh during the summer?"

As you noticed, "move" came last in a long chain of behavior. Wealthy people will usually first resort to the courts, applying lawsuits to polluters or even buying them out if reasonable. If this course fails, then wealthy individuals apply pressure to their governments for laws or moral pressure to be brought to bear on the polluters. 90% of all instances of pollution can be dealt with through these recourses. For the 10% of cases, when all else fails, the wealthy can move away from the problem and then restart to cycle to prevent the pollution from following them.

All activities which the poor/disenfranchised have no hope of utilizing.

5/1/2006 12:33:30 PM

Republicans; they help the people who have the means to help themselves.

5/1/2006 12:39:13 PM

So who agrees with me that LoneSnark is the devil?

5/1/2006 4:23:45 PM

Global Warming is a fabrication. The heating cycle is a normal part of nature that man has changed very little.

5/1/2006 4:35:59 PM

and you know better then real scientists?

5/1/2006 9:43:35 PM

^ My real scientists know better than your real scientists.

As such, plot the points, take the mid-point, and evidently global warming is both real and man-made, but not sufficient a problem to do anything about.

5/1/2006 11:57:28 PM

your real scientists were all paid off by oil companies

5/2/2006 12:00:43 AM

your real scientists were all paid off by the National Science Foundation and Greenpeace.

5/2/2006 12:11:36 AM