i think it absolutely sucks that you guys are disgracing the campus by SPRAY PAINTING on the bricks and sidewalks to promote your run for SBP. its not like we have the most pristine looking campus anyways, but now we'll be constantly reminded about your campaign as it probably wont be cleaned anytime soon. but, im sure the groundskeepers and their crew appreciate the "job security" you give them.

kudos guys...

4/3/2006 11:16:02 PM

i'm pretty sure its chalk you fag

4/3/2006 11:18:32 PM

i got an im from this guy

4/3/2006 11:20:02 PM

^^ no, im pretty sure its paint. check out by nelson and the dan allen deck and you'll be pretty sure its paint too

4/3/2006 11:23:01 PM

That shit wasn't chalk, dick. It's not like Cody even has a solid platform.

4/3/2006 11:24:53 PM

sounds like this is another "use the spray chalk and everyone thinks its spray paint and then looks stupid when it washes away"

yall are still new, but it happens

4/3/2006 11:28:40 PM

It might be a little annoying, but how much can you fault a politician for campaigning? It took a lot of effort to get him from the underdog 3rd party type guy to being seen as serious as the other politicians running for office.

Quote :

" Platform & Initiatives Taste of Hillsborough: • How many of you knew what businesses were on Hillsborough Street your freshman year. Or even now as maybe a senior? Hillsborough is the front door of this university and should be somewhere students are familiar with. Taste of Hillsborough is a new program I want to implement in the fall. I will work with Hillsborough businesses, NC State and the city of Raleigh to close down the street for a night and give businesses and students a chance to meet. Students will be able to sample food from all participating businesses for a nominal fee or hopefully even free. Along with this will be music and other activities that allow students to meet one another and put some life back into Hillsborough Street! Hillsborough Business Guide Book: • To compliment the Taste of Hillsborough event I want to print a magazine that contains the menus of every business on Hillsborough Street relevant to NC State. These books will be distributed to the residence halls and also available in all participating restaurants. Students will be able to find the menus for all of the restaurants in one place without ever having to make a phone call. • Along with all of the menus this magazine would have coupons for restaurants and a list of discounts throughout the Raleigh / Cary area that are available to NC State students. Many of which students are not aware of. "

All the 3 major political candidates have their defects, but this is what sold me… the rest of his campaign can be found at
http://cody.wolfpacklife.com/platform/index.php
I’d seriously like to see Hillsborough street start turning into more a college feel street rather than just sucking and businesses failing. A vote against a campaign thats about turning around hillsborough street would means we probably wouldn't see anyone try to address Hillborough Street again during our time here if its seeing as a failing issue.

When he saw the concern he also posted on tdub to discuss his campaign and explain that it was just chalk in multiple threads people had made about the elections.

[Edited on April 3, 2006 at 11:42 PM. Reason : .]

4/3/2006 11:34:12 PM

he wrote in the technician viewpoint submission thing last week that it was spray chalk and goes away after a few rains

4/3/2006 11:36:05 PM

haha you guys are fucking stupid

OMG CHALK

4/3/2006 11:39:38 PM

anyone want to place bets on how many more "oh noes, spray paint!!1" threads pop up before midnight tomorrow?

I've gotta figure out how to make up for my ACC bracket losses

4/3/2006 11:55:10 PM

4/4/2006 12:05:31 AM

If you think getting chalk off will be difficult, then you'll really hate trying to scrub off his campaign members from trees



http://www.thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=398889&page=1

"I really hope my boy Will Quick wins this shit, "
"we had to SCRUB that shit off."
" My boys and I have already gone around washing this stuff off of as many bricks as we could "

If this thread is serious, then quick supporters have gone around erasing as many of Cody's chalk messages as they could.

[Edited on April 4, 2006 at 12:34 AM. Reason : .]

4/4/2006 12:28:44 AM

yet it all comes down to the fact that none of this will affect anyone in the long run

4/4/2006 12:44:29 AM

For everones info here is the link to style of spray chalk he used. Clearly it is removable and the only reason I see people are going nuts about it is because they have not seen this type of chalk used on this campus before. http://www.kuzsports.com/marking_chalk.htm

4/4/2006 12:52:54 AM

Quote :

"...but now we'll be constantly reminded about your campaign as it probably wont be cleaned anytime soon. "

Just so everyone knows, Cody's campaign does have plans to clean this up after the election. The week after voting if any remains we’re going out in groups to spray it down and scrub it off. There have never been plans to just leave it there and let it wash away on its own since it does last longer than normal chalk.

4/4/2006 8:16:40 AM

all of these offices are such a joke these days, who the fuck cares anymore

4/4/2006 8:38:20 AM

Quote :

"I’d seriously like to see Hillsborough street start turning into more a college feel street rather than just sucking and businesses failing. A vote against a campaign thats about turning around hillsborough street would means we probably wouldn't see anyone try to address Hillborough Street again during our time here if its seeing as a failing issue. "

WAKE UP

STUDENT GOVERNMENT DOESN'T DO SHIT FOR YOU

THEY HAVE NO POWER TO DO ANYTHING

ESPECIALLY WITH REGARDS TO HILLSBOROUGH

4/4/2006 8:54:20 AM

Quote :

"STUDENT GOVERNMENT DOESN'T DO SHIT FOR YOU THEY HAVE NO POWER TO DO ANYTHING"

You think if we sent student representatives to talk with the group over the Hillsborough Street renovation they wouldn't listen at all? The Student Body President can't make giant changes, but small ones are within his realm.

How about small discounts and specials for students from businesses near NC State? He is planning to do this, and as the President of IRC, he has good working relationships with many. Many too have specials they don't do well enough to publicize... he'll help everyone on campus find those. If it saves you $3.00 over the course of the year, he's done more than x20 you pay out of your fees to fund his position as SBP.

Improving Homecoming? SG put in over $10,000 last year and Cody has been involved with Homecoming for the past several. Would Homecoming improving be something worth your time to vote on?


SG can do a lot for its scale if you get people willing to invest their time and make the organization worthwhile. Cody will do that. Please consider voting for him.

4/4/2006 9:30:00 AM

the ones aound bragaw are spray paint and they've been there for weeks now.

4/4/2006 12:09:15 PM

Spraychalk looks alot like paint, and is designed to handle a few extra rains, but will wash away with rain eventually... although they plan to manually wash them off after the elections.

Quick's friends have already gone around erasing plenty of Cody's campaign stuff (& I heard last year the bragged about stealing The Pirate Captains campaign material).

But Cody has said on tdub many times, and through the technician that its just chalk, and that it will be cleaned off after the elections instead of waiting for rain to take it off. So are you really sure its paint?

Today being the last day to vote, its important to get the facts straight. I also think it will be the last time we see any student motivated movement to make Hillsborough street not suck if we vote down such an effort. I’d really like to have more a college feel. Working with businesses, and students getting excited about changing it are realistic goals. Even if that doesn't sell you on a Cody vote, I think that he didn't steal campaign materials like Quick did, or make attack ads like the other politician guy did, means that hes worth a vote.

4/4/2006 12:28:19 PM

Quote :

"You think if we sent student representatives to talk with the group over the Hillsborough Street renovation they wouldn't listen at all? The Student Body President can't make giant changes, but small ones are within his realm. "

They would not care... at all.

You don't get to go to developers and planners and bring your weak ass ideals to the table and expect them to listen.

Get degrees in urban planning and economics and they might actually think about caring.

As far as this "Taste of Hillsborough" thing, it's a fucking pipe dream. I don't care what position you have been elected to as part of student government, the city is not shutting down a major thoroughfare for you to have a meet and greet. That's in addition to the fact that it is unlikely that you would get the businesses to participate as a group. It's hard to get business to go out of their way to do stuff that will have absolutly no positive impact on their profit margins.

4/4/2006 12:29:32 PM

There are 2 things that can help Hillsborough street business. 1)Keeping good places alive instead of going out of business as so many places seem to do. 2) And bring in new stuff.

Getting students more aware of what restaurants and businesses are there, and aware of the discounts already available would be enough to boost business some.

Bringing in new stuff might be a little too ambitious. But ambition is not a bad thing. Even if 2 doesn't work directly, if there is any impact from 1, then more businesses might get interested in the area on their own.

Part of a college road feel comes from the people, not just the businesses. A movement and excitement about changing Hillsborough street would help with that. But Hillsborough street is not all of his platform.

http://cody.wolfpacklife.com/platform/index.php

If peoples position is that Hillsborough street sucks and can never change, then of course it wont.

4/4/2006 12:35:04 PM

Quote :

"Getting students more aware of what restaurants and businesses are there, and aware of the discounts already available would be enough to boost business some. Bringing in new stuff might be a little too ambitious. But ambition is not a bad thing. Even if 2 doesn't work directly, if there is any impact from 1, then more businesses might get interested in the area on their own. "

The assumption that businesses are failing because the students don't know that they are there is stupid. The reality is that the students know they are there and don't care. If you haven't built up some notoriety with your name and/or don't serve cheap pizza, then you will struggle on Hillsborough St. Now the places that don't fall under this are the businessesd that don't cater to the college crowd such as Porter's. They are doing really well but I rarely see a crowd there that consists mostly of college students. The same 15 businesses will continue to thrive and the rest will just be middle of the road or worse. Nothing your favorite candidate is going to do can change that.

And there are already plenty of businesses that would like to place themselves on Hillsborough St., however a lot of those are bar-type establishments. Due to the city of Raleigh not being overly generous with liquor licenses, it's really hard for those businesses to get everything set up so that they can move it, however. Not to mention they would fail in time anyway since everyone either goes to Mitch's, East Village, PBs, or Glenwood anyway.

I know there is more to his platform. I don't care. He comes up with these happy horseshit ideas that make people think he could actually bring about some change on Hillsborough St. and for that simple fact doesn't deserve to get elected. It's the equivalent of lying to people really. Making promises that you have no viable way of keeping is a lie in my book anyway.

4/4/2006 12:46:50 PM

Another candidate is running alot on the idea that he is going to try to get us bojangles discounts... I don't see Codys platform as more of a "lie" than anyone elses.

"The assumption that businesses are failing because the students don't know that they are there is stupid. The reality is that the students know they are there and don't care."

Some of the newer students wont be familiar with everything, and definitely not everyone knows about all the discounts available... I think that combined with stuff previously mentioned is enough to get people to care.

Maybe if he said “I guarantee this will happen,” rather than “I will try to make this happen, and heres the parts to my plan to bring about change” then it could count as a lie in my book, but ambitious goals don’t count as lies to me.

4/4/2006 12:57:54 PM

I just find it funny that you guys can't find anything negative about Cody other than the style of chalk that he uses. I am sick of this douchebaggery shown by both the Langley and Quick campaign. Cody has ran a completely clean election while others especially Langley has broken every rule in the book. If he does win, it will be complete cockery! I think before anyone jumps to conclusions they should realize that both facilities and campus police approved the spray chalk before it was put out. Seriously, get your story straight. And if you aren't going to vote for him, find a better reason than the fact that he found a way to chalk that no one else was smart enough to think of. If you notice it is already fading from the rain last night.

4/4/2006 12:59:23 PM

Quote :

"Some of the newer students wont be familiar with everything, and definitely not everyone knows about all the discounts available... I think that combined with stuff previously mentioned is enough to get people to care. Maybe if he said “I guarantee this will happen,” rather than “I will try to make this happen, and heres the parts to my plan to bring about change” then it could count as a lie in my book, but ambitious goals don’t count as lies to me. "

OK. So if i run for an office (who really cares what it is, this is hypothetical) and part of my platform is that i will try to make electricity free within 3 years of my election, is that a viable reason to vote for me?

I mean, you know it's not going to happen. Especially if whatever position i am being voted in to has absolutely no control over anything concerning cost of electricity.

I see posturing with "plans" that are doomed from conception as lying when it comes to your "platform" for election. Give me solid, viable goals, and leave the silly unrealistic visions at home.

And to clarify, I am not in anyone's "camp" as far as this goes. I am just pointing out the idiocy.

4/4/2006 1:08:37 PM

There are practical and ambitious parts of his platform. Free electricity as parallel doesn't capture that.

4/4/2006 1:14:29 PM

Quote :

"no, im pretty sure its paint. check out by nelson and the dan allen deck and you'll be pretty sure its paint too"

There are fairly strict rules both by the elections board (or whatever its called) AND the university for graphitting the campus. Whatever he did, it had to be approved AHEAD of time before actually doing it. Americana had a similar situation happen a year or two back because the stuff looked like paint and lasted awhile ... however, it DID wash away.

To those of you who don't believe in student government, let it absolve for a year if thats what you want. However, you'll have absolutely NO right to complain about ANYTHING that may or may not happen in that period of time.

4/4/2006 1:32:38 PM

Quote :

"If you notice it is already fading from the rain last night. "

not that i really care about the chalk since im not on campus . . . but when was the last time it rained like last night? with how it has been lately, it would be there for months if someone doesn't wash it off.

4/4/2006 2:14:40 PM

Quote :

"There are practical and ambitious parts of his platform. Free electricity as parallel doesn't capture that. "

Well that's nice since i wasn't comparing his entire platform to a plan for free electricity.

I am saying that the inclusion of the idiotic and unrealistic part of his platform outweighs the practical and realistic part as far as my confidence in his ability to pay up goes. If you are going to talk about your plan for something wholly unrealistic and unattainable, then i don't really care about all of the other shit. Your platform should be stuff that you want and COULD make happen. Not necessarily simple stuff that anyone who isn't a fucking water baby could accomplish, but at least stuff that there is a chance in hell of you making a reality.

4/4/2006 2:50:26 PM

i didn't mean to offend you, i just don't think cody's ideas are unrealistic or idiotic. both of the other main candidates have platforms that involve the university deciding to take less money from students, and spend more money on students. one of them even thinks they can manage to make the university build more parking decks or something to some how make the parking situation better. so when it comes to unrealistic, getting students aware of discounts & trying at the taste of hillsborough thing, doesn't seem to be that far out there.

4/4/2006 3:01:23 PM

just to point out one thing there...the University already plans to build a parking deck in teh riddick lot, so that's not so unimaginable...

4/4/2006 3:02:52 PM

if they already plan to, then its not a future SBP doing the changes. 1 person going up to the administration and saying spend thousands on this cause plz seems unlikely.... but if the university starts getting willy-nilly with its money like that, then we can get them to subsidize hillsborough street stuff and make it hot

4/4/2006 3:04:50 PM

yeah, teh university is already partnering w/ hillsborough st to do the renovation, and they had the meeting last month (the Chancellor was there, and I think at least 1 of the candidates was there, but that's what I read in technician)....anyway, it will be better someday, but realisticly not in our time here. Certainly though, the SBP will greatly influence the design of everything new coming to the university, through power on committees, but just probably won't be the real catalyst for the improvement

4/4/2006 3:19:21 PM

Quote :

"i didn't mean to offend you, i just don't think cody's ideas are unrealistic or idiotic. both of the other main candidates have platforms that involve the university deciding to take less money from students, and spend more money on students. one of them even thinks they can manage to make the university build more parking decks or something to some how make the parking situation better. so when it comes to unrealistic, getting students aware of discounts & trying at the taste of hillsborough thing, doesn't seem to be that far out there. "

You haven't offended me in the least. And I don't care if the other candidates are equally unrealistic. This is about Cody. I have already said that I am not supporting ANY of the candidates. I am just simply pointing out the issues I have with Cody's platform. I understand that you feel compelled for some reason to defend him and his platform, but the argument of "well he's not the only one with fucking retarded items on his platform" only succeeds in weakening your claim that this particular item is in any way not idiotic.

4/4/2006 3:22:52 PM

"equally unrealistic"
"'well he's not the only one with fucking retarded items on his platform' only succeeds in weakening your claim that this particular item is in any way not idiotic."

I didn't make equality assertions… I said
“so when it comes to unrealistic, getting students aware of discounts & trying at the taste of hillsborough thing, doesn't seem to be that far out there”

meaning that relatively his ideas were better. Maybe what you meant to say is that you think every SBP candidate has bad ideas, and it doesn’t matter how much worse some of them are than others if they are all bad ideas. That would be more cynical but make more sense.

“This is about Cody”

I thought when you said:
“So if i run for an office”
that it opened the floor to discuss in way of comparison other potential and actual candidates.

4/4/2006 3:40:26 PM

Quote :

""equally unrealistic" "'well he's not the only one with fucking retarded items on his platform' only succeeds in weakening your claim that this particular item is in any way not idiotic." "

I don't know what your point in quoting that was, but i thought i would quote it agian for fun.

Quote :

"I didn't make equality assertions… I said “so when it comes to unrealistic, getting students aware of discounts & trying at the taste of hillsborough thing, doesn't seem to be that far out there” "

You also said "both of the other main candidates have platforms that involve the university deciding to take less money from students, and spend more money on students. one of them even thinks they can manage to make the university build more parking decks or something to some how make the parking situation better."

That is qualifying him in relation to his equally unrealistic opponents. Which is an equality assertion.

Quote :

"“This is about Cody” I thought when you said: “So if i run for an office” that it opened the floor to discuss in way of comparison other potential and actual candidates. "

You were wrong.

The introduction of a wholly hypothetical situation in an effort to quantify the absurdity of his little plan in no way brings his opponents and/or their platforms into the discussion.

4/4/2006 4:16:56 PM

I'm not voting Cody, but...

that stuff is spray chalk and comes off in a few rains so STFU

4/4/2006 5:18:06 PM

Whether its "spray chalk" or not, it *looks* like spray paint and therefore gives our campus a trashy appearance. Does "VOTE CODY" sprayed on bricks really make anyone want to vote for Cody (much less care about student body elections)?

4/4/2006 7:11:01 PM

oh, so now that you accept that it is chalk you are complaining that it *looks* like spray paint.

You know all these flyers and poster boards around campus make it look like crap so we shouldn't have those either.

4/4/2006 7:29:44 PM

I think the stupid weather worn posters and crap look worse than "spraypaint"... sorry. I'm gonna have to agree with ^

4/4/2006 7:31:19 PM

langley i believe chalked areas where rain can't reach against the rules.
but if his campaign plans to clean it up afterwords, as cody's does with their chalk I believe, then theres no point in getting excited or upset by SBP candidates campaigning with chalk messages.

4/4/2006 7:50:05 PM

Screw them all!!! i voted the PIRATE for every field.

4/4/2006 7:52:07 PM

even though the pirate captain endorsed a different person for SBP?

4/4/2006 8:07:14 PM

i voted Langley, Will Quick is a fucking tool

4/4/2006 9:10:35 PM

Quote :

"Whether its "spray chalk" or not, it *looks* like spray paint and therefore gives our campus a trashy appearance."

It does give our campus election either a "third world" or "inner city" feel. Not exactly the image NCSU is going for, I'd guess.

4/4/2006 9:42:24 PM

you know its paint cause it stormed monday and its still there. plus theres not enough people voting for him so who cares.

4/5/2006 2:03:40 AM

Quote :

"Whether its "spray chalk" or not, it *looks* like spray paint and therefore gives our campus a trashy appearance. "

If you are THAT concerned, go run it by the elections board and the university asking them to change posting guidelines/regulations. OR, even better, why don't you start a campus organization that focuses solely on improving the appearance of campus. Either way, complaining on an internet message board does little or nothing to actually solve the so-called "trashy appearance" you are referring to

4/5/2006 5:28:23 AM

Hillsborough St will be vastly improved when the drinking age is back to 18. That is all.

4/5/2006 10:18:15 AM

haha agreed... fucking elizabeth dole...


[Edited on April 5, 2006 at 10:37 AM. Reason : set em up]

4/5/2006 10:37:42 AM