http://www.gizmag.com/go/2633/

3/26/2006 2:44:48 PM

3/26/2006 2:47:56 PM

^Wait...are you inhaling vapor there?

On the same website: http://www.slightesttouch.com/

Quote :

"Women who have never experienced a significant number of orgasms in one session (i.e., multiple orgasms), who then achieve this level of experience with the Slightest Touch®, should be aware that such an experience may cause a temporary, mild case of disorientation. Therefore, it is always wise to rest a few minutes after such a session before attempting to walk or to resume other activities. "

AHA

And the P-mate is awesome too: http://www.gizmag.com/go/4616/

[Edited on March 26, 2006 at 2:59 PM. Reason : sss]

3/26/2006 2:56:20 PM

yeah, it's a nebulizer filled with grain alcohol (Everclear). it belonged to Noen, who lived across the street from me in college.

3/26/2006 3:02:48 PM

^It work pretty good??

3/26/2006 3:08:44 PM

Hahaha, I knew as soon as I saw this topic, Duke would be on top of things.

Yea it works like a fucking champ. Still sitting in my closet actually. Thanks ebay

3/26/2006 3:20:31 PM

i seem to remember hearing something about inhaling alcohol being popular and common place at bars or clubs in japan.

3/26/2006 3:56:19 PM

that sounds liek a BAD idea to me

3/26/2006 6:53:45 PM

better than soakin a tampon in vodka

3/26/2006 6:59:06 PM

no calories, right?

3/26/2006 7:08:38 PM

doesnt matter, alcohol will still cause weight gain in some people for reasons that have to do with the liver

but also, i think it was said a while ago that this wont get you drunk, you cant absorb very much thru your lungs

3/26/2006 7:13:26 PM

This will get you drunk, you just can't get fucking stupid.

You can't absorb it fast enough to become lethally intoxicated or even much over the legal limit.

The problem is, and the reason it's already been outlawed in many places in the US, is that it renders breathalyzers almost useless.

Vaporized alcohol is much safer, MUCH cheaper and much "healthier" (calorie-wise) than drinking.

3/26/2006 7:24:53 PM

^that is pure speculation.

3/26/2006 7:31:24 PM

You stupid shit I OWN a vaporizer. I've researched the technology and the science. You dont have a damn clue what you are talking about.

3/26/2006 7:34:30 PM

^Dude, according to the "article," you're only allowed to use it once an hour. If the time constraint is abused, I can see it being just as dangerous as consuming alcohol in liquid format.

3/26/2006 7:44:31 PM

^^ ok, then put your fucking money where you mouth is, post the scientific articles which show that inhaling alcohol causes less hepatic stress relative the amount needed to feel the effect when drinking it, -- and i hope i dont need to explain to you that just becuase something lacks calories doesnt mean its not very bad for and could help you gain weight.

i pray to god your arent relying on the info provided by the company that SELLS them. tell me you arent that stuipid, please.



[Edited on March 26, 2006 at 7:48 PM. Reason : -]

3/26/2006 7:46:26 PM

Whatever CNN or npr article I saw about it being common place in japan I think also mentioned that it wasn't as strong as drinking. Heres what Wiki has to say on it. It also points out it being a big thing starting in Asia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_without_liquid

Quote :

"Alcohol without liquid (AWOL) is a process introduced first in Asia and Europe that allows people to take in liquor (distilled spirits) without actually consuming liquid. The machine vaporizes alcohol and mixes it with oxygen, allowing the consumer to breathe in the mixture. The machine has been dubbed AWOL, a play on the military term AWOL, Absent Without Leave. The AWOL machine produces a very fine alcoholic mist. The continual intake of this mist over a 20 minute period is the equivalent of taking one shot of distilled spirits. The machine was introduced to the United States in August of 2004. The possible health and safety risks of inhaling alcohol vapors are unknown and many legislators are promoting legislation to ban alcohol inhalation machines. Bills to do so have been introduced in at least 13 states so far, and Michigan has made it illegal to possess, sell or use an AWOL machine. Support for such legislation comes from groups fighting underage drinking and drunk driving, including alcohol companies such as Diageo and industry groups such as the Distilled Spirits Council of the United States (DISCUS), among others. The machine's marketers say it produces a "Euphoric High" and the effects of alcohol consumption without the high calories, carbohydrates, and hangovers associated with common consumption. In reality, distilled spirits contain no carbohydrates (nor any fat or cholesterol) that the machine could remove. Hangovers are allegedly prevented due to the fact that the alcohol is delivered with oxygen to the brain. Vaporized alcohol also enters the bloodstream faster and its effects are more immediate than its liquid counterparts. Marketers encourage purchasers to use the machine no more than twice in a 24 hour period to avoid overconsumption, as this might be dangerous. "

3/26/2006 8:44:58 PM

If I got one I would also have to find some kind of machine that would let me drink my cigarettes.

3/26/2006 8:46:16 PM

you can injest nicotine if you want, go to the drug store.

3/26/2006 9:00:44 PM

3/26/2006 9:10:46 PM

Quote :

"An American company has released what is believed to be the first of its type - an electrical sexual stimulation device. Stimulation Systems is a Texas-based company specialising in 'electronic consumer products that bring pleasurable, life-enhancing solutions to the world."

Should have called themselves Sexas Instruments

3/26/2006 9:20:51 PM

so you got to stayed tied to this dorky looking machine for 20 minutes instead of taking a shot

AWESOME, COUNT ME IN

3/26/2006 10:20:40 PM

oh fuck yeah, next step is to pipe that bad boy into the AC and throw a big ass party, everyone's fucked up... hell, i might just leave it running all the time...

3/26/2006 10:50:35 PM

HOW ABOUT THIS

LETS GET SOME INSULIN SYRINGES FROM ECKERD AND INJECT 50mL OF EVERCLEAR INTO YOUR ARM

THERE IS VERY LITTLE CALORIES THIS WAY AND IT WILL HIT YOU LIKE THAT

thats a .50% blood alcohol ((.025 / 5L)*100) and will take 10 seconds. youre welcome, people.





[Edited on March 26, 2006 at 11:05 PM. Reason : =]

3/26/2006 11:02:07 PM

That post really did deserve an extra nasaly edit smiley

3/26/2006 11:40:53 PM

actually, that was a random character. it just hapened to be an equals sign.



[Edited on March 26, 2006 at 11:54 PM. Reason : random]

3/26/2006 11:47:51 PM

just tried puttin vodka in a nebulizer, it gives u good but dif buzz follow up w/ bout 1/2 a fifth and ur golden

6/3/2006 3:44:21 AM

Quote :

"You stupid shit I OWN a vaporizer."

hahah and I OWN a car, but hell if I know exactly how everything in there works.

6/3/2006 8:04:36 AM

Except you can take the vaporizer apart easily and put it back together. It's not a complicated piece of equipment, nor is it a complicated method of delivering "medicine" to the body.

6/3/2006 8:19:58 PM

Quote :

"^^ ok, then put your fucking money where you mouth is, post the scientific articles which show that inhaling alcohol causes less hepatic stress relative the amount needed to feel the effect when drinking it, -- and i hope i dont need to explain to you that just becuase something lacks calories doesnt mean its not very bad for and could help you gain weight. i pray to god your arent relying on the info provided by the company that SELLS them. tell me you arent that stuipid, please. "

Are you fucking stupid dude? The liver only processes and cleans the blood coming from the stomach and intestines. You BREATH it through the lungs. It bypasses the liver completely. This means much higher absorbtion to the brain and bloodstream and little to no impact at all on the liver (the impact being it processing the already metabolized alcohol).

Dumbass, lookup Dr. Michael Delman, he's one of the few doctors (Director of Clinical Dependency) who has actually studied the methodology and effects.

Which lines up right along with the reasons other medications are given through nebulizers. Because by inhalation instead of ingestion, MANY liver side-effects are bypassed.

6/3/2006 8:32:44 PM

Looks like it took you about 10 minutes or so of googling to find that bit of info there tyler

6/3/2006 10:21:50 PM

he knew the dr's name and position off the top of his head

6/3/2006 10:31:41 PM

^^To find the doctor yes.

The fact that the Liver doesn't has little to no impact on the circulatory system outside of the digestive organs is just basic stuff. And the reason doctors aren't studying it, is because there isn't shit to study.

If you want to see the "effects" in science, go look at the studies done on nebulizers for the past 30 fucking years.

6/3/2006 11:44:00 PM

Quote :

" Its potential to impair driving ability while still allowing the user to pass a breathalyser test is a serious safety issue ... In the Sunday Times article, Dr. James is also quoted as follows: “Delivering alcohol in this way very possibly vastly increases the risk of direct alcohol damage to the brain, which could be very dangerous, cause damage to nerves and dementia in the long term.” ... Dr. Delman said this method results in a high dose of alcohol for the brain. He is quoted as saying, “We know that alcohol is a toxin in the brain" ... you get the alcohol into the blood stream in the quickest way possible, like crack cocaine or meth. This is a dangerous new thing for young people to get high on.” "

http://www.safety-council.org/news/media/letters/dec1-AWOL.html

Nebulizers are mainly used now for ashma, becuase the drug needs to hit your bronchi.

All these claims about safety are made BY the advertisers. But clearly you think these are unbiased sources of information -- that doctor is paid by the people that make AWOL.

Anyway, many people are thinking early dimentia is going to be a likely side effect becuase of the brain damage youre doing, so I am not all that suprised your arguments are this anemic and filled with bizzare insults.

Have fun experimenting with a new way of delivering a drug to your brain. Cocaine was never insanely addictive until someone figured out a way to make it smokable (cook with baking soda).

Have fun.



[Edited on June 4, 2006 at 4:08 AM. Reason : [[]]]

6/4/2006 4:03:44 AM

I never said the shit wouldnt get you drunk as fuck, or that you should DRIVE or operate machinery afterward. It gets you intoxicated. Fucked up if you will.

But a) [b]you inhale ~1 shot an hour. Even with the much higher absorbtion rate, thats no more than 3-4 shots an hour, which will not put you at any serious risk of alcohol poisoning or death.[b]

The doctoral post above is fucking sensational media non-sense. I trust your "quote" as much as I trust the AWOL backer shit, not at all.

and b) it doesnt affect the fucking liver, which was your original retarded as fuck argument.

Yes it's still alcohol, coursing through your blood. Point is, it causes less damage to liver and kidneys, limits your total intake, and is much cheaper.

It's been banned everywhere because it's almost impossible to detect outside a blood draw or field sobriety test. Not because it does or has been shown to do any kind of horrible shit to you.

[Edited on June 4, 2006 at 4:17 AM. Reason : .]

6/4/2006 4:10:19 AM

Quote :

"HARRISBURG, May 4 -- State Rep. Frank Dermody's bill to criminalize the purchase, sale and use of inhaling devices that mix vaporized alcohol with oxygen was reported out of the House Judiciary Committee this week. "These machines, commonly known as AWOL -- Alcohol Without Liquid -- machines, are the latest fad. Their makers claim that they can deliver the alcohol rush without calories or a hangover, but that's not true," Dermody said. "They give the wrong impression because a person is inhaling the alcohol rather than drinking it. But inhaling alcohol can cause more alcohol toxicity, since it goes directly into the blood stream making it more dangerous than binge drinking." With these machines, Dermody explained, the alcohol moves from the lungs directly into the bloodstream, compared to drinking alcohol where it is absorbed through the digestive system over time before reaching the bloodstream. This can cause people to be more unaware of how the alcohol is affecting them. "These machines are dangerous and should be illegal in Pennsylvania." First appearing in Asia and Europe, the devices are now showing up in the United States. Five states have already outlawed the machines, and 17 states and the U.S. Congress have bills under consideration."

http://www.pahouse.com/pr/Dermody/033050406.htm

Clearly everyone knows these are harmless machines.

Quote :

"Not because it does or has been shown to do any kind of horrible shit to you."

Becuase there are no scientific studies.


[Edited on June 4, 2006 at 4:13 AM. Reason : 432]

6/4/2006 4:13:09 AM

that picture up top looks ANCIENT (noen looks like a little boy), and yet it has the 2004 commitments poster in the background.

6/4/2006 4:18:42 AM

wait, what happened to:

Quote :

"^^ ok, then put your fucking money where you mouth is, post the scientific articles which show that inhaling alcohol causes less hepatic stress relative the amount needed to feel the effect when drinking it, -- and i hope i dont need to explain to you that just becuase something lacks calories doesnt mean its not very bad for and could help you gain weight."

HMM SEEMS LIKE THE ARTICLES YOU ARE TRYING TO BACK YOURSELF WITH ARE CONTRADICTORY.

HMMMMM...............

And like I said, the states are banning the devices because they cannot DETECT THE SHIT, not because it's dangerous to a person's health.

You can keep on posting retarded "news blurbs" all day. None of them have ANY scientific backing other than "can or may do something". For someone trying to defame the device, you got to show some fucking evidence.

And yes there are TONS OF STUDIES ON NEBULIZERS. Absorption rates, times, amounts, blood stream carry, every fucking bit of it has been studied. Fuck many asthma medications are alcohol bases. Dude, you are such a fucking idiot

^what can i say, i gots a baby face

[Edited on June 4, 2006 at 4:21 AM. Reason : .]

6/4/2006 4:20:55 AM

Quote :

"And yes there are TONS OF STUDIES ON NEBULIZERS."

If you think that you means you have the freedom to then draw whatever conclusions you want about new drugs, youre completely wrong.

Quote :

"HMM SEEMS LIKE THE ARTICLES YOU ARE TRYING TO BACK YOURSELF WITH ARE CONTRADICTORY."

Like I said, youve probably got a lot of brain damage thats going to results in a lot of confusion. I never said I could prove its dangerous, I pointed out that you cant prove its safe, and that youre just a lab rat for a new drug delivery method with unstudied consquences.

Quote :

"For someone trying to defame the device, you got to show some fucking evidence"

-Coke was never a huge proble till people smoked it
-Alcohol is toxic to the brain
-You cannot detect as well
-There are no studies showing that it is safer/safe
-It is already outlawed in may states


What more evidence would you like?



[Edited on June 4, 2006 at 4:36 AM. Reason : [[[]]]]

6/4/2006 4:31:35 AM

i bet it causes diarrhea and bleeding lungs

6/4/2006 4:51:59 AM

Quote :

"-Coke was never a huge proble till people smoked it -Alcohol is toxic to the brain -You cannot detect as well -There are no studies showing that it is safer/safe -It is already outlawed in may states"

Coke is illegal, alcohol is not.

Alcohol is a brain toxin in liquid form too

There are no studies showing it's more dangerous, and it only takes common fucking sense to show it's at worst the same as liquid intake.

Detection doesn't make it dangerous inherently (stupid people do) and that is why it's outlawed, not because of danger to self. And it's only outlawed in bars and business, its still perfectly legal at home.


You want the simple fucking facts?

Lets assume absolute worst case and say you metabolize 100% via a nebulizer.

At 100% continuous usage, a nebulizer delivers a shot an hour.

Your liver can metabolize about one shot an hour, up to 3 an hour for people who are heavy drinkers with very active livers.

So to sum up. Worst case, drinking has the same absorbtion rate at inhalation. Best case, you are getting 1/3 the amount. Feel free to ask for medical references on the above items.

Keep on getting owned here. I love the backpedaling.

6/4/2006 5:05:31 AM

Quote :

"So to sum up. Worst case, drinking has the same absorbtion rate at inhalation. "

that doctor guy you metioned admitted that it hits your brain faster

Quote :

"and it only takes common fucking sense to show it's at worst the same as liquid intake."

smoking coke was just as bad as snorting it eh? no. smoking something is going to have different effects then injesting something.

Quote :

"(lack of) Detection doesn't make it dangerous inherently (stupid people do) "

yea. its not like alcohol makes people do stupid things.




[Edited on June 4, 2006 at 5:17 AM. Reason : [[[]]]]

6/4/2006 5:13:30 AM

Quote :

"that doctor guy you metioned admitted that it hits your brain faster"

Dur, because its immediately metabolized. But the CONSUMPTION RATE is dramatically lower, dipshit.

Quote :

"smoking coke was just as bad as snorting it eh? no. smoking something is going to have different effects then injesting something. "

No, because Coke has different effects based on the form and method of delivery.

Alcohols effect ONLY comes from it being metabolized into the bloodstream. Drink it, snort it, inhale it, inject it. Same result.

Quote :

"yea. its not like alcohol makes people do stupid things. "

Then ban alcohol, not the delivery mechanism.

6/4/2006 5:24:41 AM

Quote :

"No, because Coke has different effects based on the form and method of delivery. Alcohols effect ONLY comes from it being metabolized into the bloodstream. Drink it, snort it, inhale it, inject it. Same result."

Clearly youre an excellent case study for the brain damage that this machine probably cauess.

Cocain's effect on your brain is different when you smoke it becuase of the speed it gets to your brain. Substances inhaled (alcohol or cocaine) effect you differently when inhaled because they reach your brain faster and more directly.

Quote :

"Dur, because its immediately metabolized. But the CONSUMPTION RATE is dramatically lower, dipshit."

Dipshit? Dont you see? You could come up with a much better insult if your brain hasnt been damaged from inhaling a toxic substance. Didnt you see those commercials about huffing as a kid? Did you often get high from aeresol cans and the like?



[Edited on June 4, 2006 at 5:39 AM. Reason : [[[[]]]]]]

6/4/2006 5:32:21 AM

Quote :

"I've researched the technology and the science."

oh wait let me guess, you did a project on it at high school?

6/4/2006 7:38:25 AM

why not just stop being a pussy and take a shot

6/4/2006 8:24:04 AM

aha, I love those things

the feeling of a buzz w/o the side effects

6/4/2006 9:59:59 AM

If I was to mix an known flammable fuel and pure oxygen, I would not go and inhale the resulting vapors...but that's just me.

^^ exactly....Tequila isn't so bad.

[Edited on June 4, 2006 at 11:06 AM. Reason : ]

6/4/2006 11:06:13 AM

I'm not, pay attention, I'm just using a nebulizer, not an oxygen machine hooked up to it.

Quote :

"Clearly youre an excellent case study for the brain damage that this machine probably cauess. Cocain's effect on your brain is different when you smoke it becuase of the speed it gets to your brain. Substances inhaled (alcohol or cocaine) effect you differently when inhaled because they reach your brain faster and more directly. "

You stupid motherfucker.

Let me spell this out for you:

Smoking coke delivers the SAME AMOUNT at a FASTER RATE.
Snorting coke delivers the SAME AMOUNT at a SLOWER RATE.

Net result: Smoking it is far worse (more getting to your head over the same time period)

Drinking alcohol delivers 1-3 shots per hour to the bloodstream.
Vaporizing alcohol delivers 1 shot per hour to the bloodstream.

SAME RATE (1 shot per hour)
SAME AMOUNT (1 shot)

Are you seriously going to argue BASIC LOGIC?

The only way a nebulizer is going to be "more dangerous" is if someone PRESSURIZES the alcohol before you breath it. In which case you would be totally right and it would be very dangerous. But it's not, so it isn't.

And Excoriator: No, I haven't, but you are free to backup the dumbass Josh as he argues some more about shit he doesn't know a goddamn thing about.

HEY JOSH, BETTER NOT BREATHE IT MIGHT MAKE YOU FAT

6/4/2006 1:14:57 PM

IM SO INTERNET MAD AT YOU

6/4/2006 1:53:49 PM