You knew it sounded fishy.

http://www.cbpp.org/2-6-06bud.htm

Quote :

"the Administration’s own numbers indicate that the President’s budget proposals would increase deficits by $192 billion over the next five years, compared to what deficits would be if current laws and policies remained unchanged.[1] Indeed, data contained in Administration budget materials show that deficits would total $760 billion over the next five years without the policy changes the Administration is proposing, but would total $952 billion with those policy changes."

2/7/2006 5:28:25 PM

only way to fix this problem is more gov spending and more tax cuts!

2/7/2006 5:30:45 PM

im retarded

[Edited on February 7, 2006 at 5:39 PM. Reason : !!!!!]

2/7/2006 5:31:14 PM

if we got rid of prisons and killed ALL criminals there wouldnt be a budget problem anymore

2/7/2006 5:47:19 PM

probably true ^ lol...

i'll make this one easy, and you can lock the thread.

IT WON'T HAPPEN.

2/7/2006 6:04:33 PM

1. take free porn off of the internet
2. create porn tax
3. profit

2/7/2006 6:24:07 PM

1. pot tax
2. porn tax
3. nationalize interstates and existant toll booths on said roads

2/7/2006 6:31:35 PM

every thing a politician has every promised in regards to the debt has assumed the voter can't do simple math.

Except for maybe Bill Clinton. He had a REAL long term plan and actually started to decrease the debt by the end of his terms. I remember listening to one platform where someone wanted to eliminate the debt (5 trillion $ at that time) in the first 18 months in office. Given present situation, GWB's statement is about as silly.

2/7/2006 6:33:59 PM

It's not impossible to cut taxes AND cut the deficit. They just have to scale back gov. spending, and make other things more efficient.

2/7/2006 6:38:39 PM

Quote :

"1. take free porn off of the internet 2. create porn tax 3. profit"

You realize the internerds would overthrow the government in like a week if that happened, right? They would use their Halo skillz.

2/7/2006 6:55:58 PM

Quote :

"Bill Clinton. He had a REAL long term plan"

which depended upon the neverending stock-market bubble.

go troll somewhere else

2/7/2006 6:56:35 PM

LETS NOT FORGET THE WAR DOESN'T COME FROM THE GENERAL APPROPRIATIONS

SO ADD THE COST OF THE WAR[S] TO THAT DEFECIT

2/7/2006 7:11:48 PM

We're going to give the bill to Iraq.

2/7/2006 8:07:11 PM

^^^ And, of course, paygo.

2/7/2006 9:40:36 PM

Quote :

"[Clinton's deficit reduction] depended upon the neverending stock-market bubble "

yes because, as we all know, the president controls the stock market.

2/7/2006 10:04:14 PM

Quote :

"We're going to give the bill to Iraq."

i'd love it if we did


[Edited on February 7, 2006 at 10:47 PM. Reason : enjoy the freedom, tip your waitress]

2/7/2006 10:44:22 PM

Quote :

"yes because, as we all know, the president controls the stock market."

didn't say that he caused it, just that all of his rosy predictions depended upon it.

2/8/2006 1:44:13 AM

Quote :

"LETS NOT FORGET THE WAR DOESN'T COME FROM THE GENERAL APPROPRIATIONS SO ADD THE COST OF THE WAR[S] TO THAT DEFECIT[sic]"

I'm pretty sure that's what they're alluding to in the article. The administration's promise to halve the deficit by '09 is following the CBO's guidelines that require such supplemental appropriations to be ignored and presumes no changes in public policy between now and then.

IOW - it's a purely fictitious '09 deficit figure that they're passing around. More proof, if you needed it, that the administration would prefer to keep the public in la-la land about its fiscal policy.

2/8/2006 2:28:57 AM

the public will always be in la-la land. its just a matter of which side gets to define the la-la

you're upset because the democrats weren't able to. well, win some elections then.

2/8/2006 5:03:11 AM

Quote :

"which depended upon the neverending stock-market bubble. go troll somewhere else"

troll


man, this section actually hosted disscussion a few months ago. I think someone broke it since then.

2/8/2006 7:27:44 AM

Quote :

"Halving the Deficit by 2009"

You know they didn't mean it literally.

2/8/2006 8:15:31 AM

Exco.

Jesus fuckin christ.

The budget balanced under the clinton years was done so based on that years expendatures and government income. The surplus resulted because of a continuosly growing economy. It doesn't matter if the fucking stock market crashed or not. What matters is that the budget was balanced.

Bush, on the other hand, didn't even bother balancing a budget. He went on, and continues to stay on, a spending spree.

I mean

Do you know anything?

anything?

2/8/2006 2:06:20 PM

Quote :

"and government income"

2/8/2006 2:33:08 PM

Restore PAYGO!

2/8/2006 2:40:58 PM

Democrats don't have anything to do with this...

2/8/2006 5:04:10 PM

^ They did. Paygo lasted nearly a decade thanks to the restraint of democrats.

2/8/2006 6:19:38 PM

My response was more for Excoriator, who may come out from under his bridge any minute to educate us all on why PAYGO was the worst idea ever. I'll clarify, though.

Democrats don't have anything to do with the bullshit figures being put forward by the president about halving the deficit by '09.

2/8/2006 7:58:24 PM

PAYGO seems to work great when you're pulling in unsustainable amounts of money.

2/8/2006 8:01:11 PM

As they were doing for the entire decade...



[Edited on February 8, 2006 at 8:29 PM. Reason : somebody's forgetting the early nineties]

2/8/2006 8:08:01 PM

This is just one more example of Bush outpacing satire.

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/30472

2/8/2006 10:49:55 PM

Quote :

"I say 'Enough taxes.' By my estimation, this historical crossing-out of the deficit will save American taxpayers millions, billions, and perhaps even bajillions of dollars."

millions would hardly be significant, and bajillions is a made up word.

2/8/2006 11:04:12 PM

amazing that the onion would use a made up word

2/8/2006 11:41:55 PM

Sometimes I wonder just how credible they really are.

2/8/2006 11:51:16 PM

i hope mjfrog enjoyed stopping by the soap boxxxxx


hope it was fun

2/9/2006 12:06:11 AM

Quote :

"It's not impossible to cut taxes AND cut the deficit. They just have to scale back gov. spending, and make other things more efficient."

how do you make things more efficient by spending less? basic economics.

and for the halving the deficit, i call bullshit more than anything. as long as we're still funding the military and spending beyond our means, the deficit will get bigger. are those think tanks at the white house good for anything other than coming up with impossible miracles?

[Edited on February 9, 2006 at 1:12 AM. Reason : add more]

2/9/2006 1:09:47 AM