http://www.connpost.com/news/ci_3475757

Sued school b/c of wrongful suspension and won. Aparrently judicial boards that don't allow you to defend yourself and confront your accusers aren't legal?

2/5/2006 1:24:41 AM

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" Taking the witness stand on the first day of the trial, Rom testified he had had some disciplinary problems at the university. He was written up for dumping buckets of water from an upper floor window on unsuspecting students, and he smashed a bathroom mirror with a football. Two days after 9-11, he ran naked past a crowd of students, and he got drunk and threw up all over a dorm bathroom. All this occurred in his first two years at the school."

sounds like a fun dude.

2/5/2006 1:28:57 AM

He sounds like a dumbass, but I agree that student courts are sketchy as hell.

2/5/2006 1:40:13 AM

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"Two days after 9-11"

this brings up an interesting question: what is the standard grace period for streaking after a tragic event?

2/5/2006 1:45:47 AM

haha. why did they even bother mentioning that?

2/5/2006 1:50:58 AM

they want us to hate him

2/5/2006 1:53:32 AM

it could be 9-11-05

2/5/2006 1:53:57 AM

I went streaking two days after 2-1-06.

2/5/2006 2:00:22 AM

not bad for evidently not graduating....its gonna take me quite a few years to get $200k

2/5/2006 2:48:33 AM

Good result.

2/5/2006 3:44:42 AM

I am going to streak my "rival" college

Warren Wilson

show them who is REALLY more radical/liberal

2/5/2006 4:39:20 AM

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"Two days after 9-11, he ran naked past a crowd of students"

what the fucking hell?

who cares if it was 2 days after 9-11? Maybe that was his way of dealing with tragedy? i hardly see how these two events are connected, except in a "9-11 changed everything!!!11" mentality

2/5/2006 10:32:10 AM

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"this brings up an interesting question: what is the standard grace period for streaking after a tragic event?"

how long does it take someone to strip?

2/5/2006 10:34:11 AM

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"what the fucking hell? who cares if it was 2 days after 9-11? Maybe that was his way of dealing with tragedy? i hardly see how these two events are connected, except in a "9-11 changed everything!!!11" mentality "

jesus christ

2 days after 9-11 the mentality was that everything WAS changed by 9-11


and they probably mentioned it because it was probably a group gathering dealing with 911 or something to that effect.

2/5/2006 10:38:37 AM

^ right. It's like streaking at a funeral. Streaking is offensive anyway, but when you add people who are grieving on top of that, it makes the offense worse.

2/5/2006 11:00:50 AM

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"Aparrently judicial boards that don't allow you to defend yourself and confront your accusers aren't legal"

It's about fucking time these judicial boards get pwn3d in real court.

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"He sounds like a dumbass, but I agree that student courts are sketchy as hell."

Exactly. Very little justice comes out of student courts---that's why, historically, they aren't very visible. Students often have the presumption of guilt, not innocence, and don't have many, if any, of the rights of the accused that one would have in the US legal system. For example, let's say a public safety officer searches a student without permission or probable cause and finds contraband. The legal case [city/county] will be dropped because the evidence was obtained illegally, however, in student court, the evidence is still admissible, thus the student gets in trouble despite having their rights violated in the process.

(this is not about 9/11, so shut up about it....)

2/5/2006 11:20:17 AM

I dont know, i'd say some student courts are sketchy some arent.
I was on housing's judicial board for a bit, and i definately dont think we were sketchy.

Then again, you *did* get to come in and defend yourself, or defend what you did, for the things we saw. If you didnt show up it went to some non student council to be handled. You didnt get to "face" your accuser but, then again, the "accuser" was an RA or security officer and we got their report which you could read and argue about.

2/5/2006 11:45:36 AM

why in hell would you ever think that disallowing the accused to face their accuser was a good idea?

god you people are a scourge on society

2/5/2006 12:05:49 PM

they're just trying to make you understand that your civil liberties are simply a smoke screen

2/5/2006 1:07:29 PM

http://www.thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=360995

"fifty-one percent"

2/5/2006 1:18:10 PM

ahaha i was the one who started the whole burn her at the stake thing

2/5/2006 1:47:07 PM

^ ahahaha, they're gona try you for that one, and make sure to SUE SUE SUE!!1

2/5/2006 1:53:32 PM

Kangaroo court is exactly what University disciplinary hearings are.

2/5/2006 2:28:34 PM

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"You didnt get to "face" your accuser but, then again, the "accuser" was an RA or security officer and we got their report which you could read and argue about."

In real court that is called hearsay. Why shouldn't people facing student "courts" have much of the same rights? The state (assuming that the school is a state school) is still doing something to punish the student.

2/5/2006 4:03:56 PM

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" You didnt get to "face" your accuser"

Sounds like the definition of sketchy to me.

2/5/2006 4:05:04 PM

a lot more universities are about to get sued.

2/5/2006 4:06:26 PM

i'll say...

2/5/2006 4:09:55 PM

Well remember, this is just a trial court ruling - it has not been reviewed on appeal yet, and I suspect it will be.

I reaffirm, however, my belief that this was a good result. Someone who is defending against a traffic ticket has many due process rights, including the right to confront the accuser - I don't see why someone who is facing expulsion from school should have fewer due process rights. In today's economy, a college degree is pretty much a prerequisite to a successful job.

2/5/2006 8:09:28 PM

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"I am going to streak my "rival" college Warren Wilson show them who is REALLY more radical/liberal"

Streaking Warren Wilson is like streaking a nude beach

2/6/2006 7:38:01 AM

I'm glad i graduated without ever having to go before the j-board. Here's to not being dumb enough to get caught *cheers*

2/6/2006 10:08:00 AM

^amen

2/6/2006 12:25:02 PM