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this is being shown on discovery channel this weekend

i think it comes on sat night at 8

check it out

2/4/2006 2:12:10 AM

"that's a big bear.... that's a big bear...

sometimes I wish I was gay because it would be so much easier. I could just pull over at a truck stop and get it on in the bathroom..."

2/4/2006 2:13:18 AM

Whoa I wasn't expecting them to show this on TV so fast. This was one of my favorite movies of 2005; I would definitely recommend watching it.

http://www.apple.com/trailers/lions_gate/grizzly_man/large.html

[Edited on February 4, 2006 at 2:19 AM. Reason : trailer]

2/4/2006 2:16:03 AM

Watch this if you haven't seen it. Herzog is a genius.

2/4/2006 2:25:29 AM

i would watch it, but i already know that fucking with bears is bad

2/4/2006 2:41:39 AM

Herzog is not only consistently good, but he makes eleventy billion movies a year.

Note to self: Watch Aguirre again.

2/4/2006 2:45:40 AM

He also helps people when they flip their cars

2/4/2006 2:50:12 AM

I did not like this film --

I think Herzog was disrespectful with the footage he chose to use of Treadwell (footage that Treadwell never intended to run), and Treadwell was disrespectful to impose on the bears' territory for so long. In addition, Herzog narrates and references himself a lot... seemed very heavy-handed and cocky. I think he's way past his prime.

Not cool.

-ZiP!-

[Edited on February 4, 2006 at 3:31 AM. Reason : but i did watch Fitzcarraldo tonight, kinda crazy film. I agree that Aguirre was excellent.]

2/4/2006 3:29:58 AM

I liked this film. If I had just heard about Treadwell's case I may not have been as sympathetic as I am b/c of the movie. I don't know about ^ b/c why would Treadwell videotape stuff if he didn't want it to be seen by someone at some time? He could just as easily have ranted to the foxes. But I do believe it was included more out of the controversy aspect than b/c it served an important point of the story. Except that it showed that Treadwell was ultimately lonely.

2/4/2006 9:05:02 AM

honestly can someone give SOME TYPE of synopsis for this

the commercials dont explain shit and so far all i got out of it is that its some dude that lived with bears

from what zip makes it sound like the guy is dead, or atleast one of the 2 guys is dead, and that one of the 2 guys SOMEHOW disrespected a bear

how to do that, i have no clue

all sarcasm aside, whats the deal with this show?

2/4/2006 9:45:33 AM

aha i was gonna look for my old fitzcaraldo poster i made for toplikar's illustration studio, but it's buried somewhere in about 10 cds and i ain't gonna play that game right now

2/4/2006 10:47:08 AM

for some reason im completely turned off by any movie with a director/writer/whatever that someone describes as a "genius"

2/4/2006 10:50:26 AM

It's a documentary about Timothy Treadwell, who was a guy that lived out with the grizzly bears (in Alaska or Canada?) every summer for thirteen years. During the 2nd half of the summer he spent time in the Grizzly Maze, which is a dangerous, unprotected section of land that the grizzlies move to. Treadwell took hours upon hours of footage of the grizzlies, foxes, and of himself talking, ranting, or spending time among the bears. The filmmaker adds in his own interviews with people that associated with Treadwell, such as the guy that transported him into the wilderness, an ex-girlfriend, etc. It's really interesting.

He did die, but you should watch the movie to find out more about that.

2/4/2006 11:33:34 AM

^Yep, was in Alaska. I agree that it's kinda a compelling story, similar to Jon Krakauer's book, "Into the Wild," however, I just think that Herzog let his own big ego get in the way, and could have done things a lot differently.

-ZiP!-

2/4/2006 11:46:36 AM

i got a little bored about 20 minutes in

2/4/2006 12:25:26 PM

on DSC, they had 30 minutes of his friends discussing the movie and they all essentially said that timothy would have loved it.

2/4/2006 1:43:11 PM

I watched part of it

that dude was pretty crazy

2/4/2006 1:50:03 PM

i read about this in a Reader's Digest a while back.


apparently they had audio tape from him being eaten. He was yelling (to a girl that was with him) to get something to hit one of the bears and the screaming/moans go on for several minutes before he dies.

There was a food shortage that season and the bears went nuts.

2/5/2006 2:51:48 PM

apparently, you didnt watch the movie

2/5/2006 2:58:40 PM

did they ever play the audio of the mauling? i watched it from 8-10 last night and left to go see Munich so i didn't get to finish

2/5/2006 3:48:30 PM

no.

2/5/2006 4:02:49 PM

^I knda wanted to hear it but kinda didn't. 6 minutes... "You must never listen to this. You should destroy it."

That fucker was crazy... but I like the film a lot, I thought it was VERY well done.

2/5/2006 5:07:00 PM

Herzog is so hardcore:

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-phoenix2feb02,0,6600731.story?coll=la-home-headlines

http://www.hollywood.com/news/detail/id/3478770

2/5/2006 5:17:33 PM

I think Treadwell did more more harm than anything to Alaska. I think it was more about him wanting to feel accepted as well as needed than it was about "protecting" bears. Maybe since he couldn't harmonize well in to this world, up in Alaska he could just create his own, video tape it, and become "the rock star he always wanted to be." Going on and on about how "dangerous" it is there, and how "no-one else could survive", how he "found a way", and how "these bears need him." I do, however think it is a tragedy and feel for his friends and family that have to mourn his loss. I in no way, mean to dis-respect his death.

2/5/2006 5:29:26 PM

how did he harm alaska?

2/5/2006 5:32:47 PM

he had to shit someplace right?

probably in the water, this contaminated various ecosystems and destroying a small village in tibet

2/5/2006 5:53:15 PM

^^ Maybe harming Alaska is incorrectly worded, but he did do harm to the Alaska wildlife by breaking national park and/or reserve regulations. Treadwell claims that his main purpose is to protect these grizzlies from poachers. In the documentary itself an Alaskin Bear biologist said that poaching has not been a problem. Additionally, by interacting with the bears (like Treadwell did) the bears become more accustom to humans and if poachers were to be present, the bears would be less likely to run from danger. Also the bears would be more likely to invade camps and endanger other humans or themselves.

[Edited on February 5, 2006 at 6:24 PM. Reason : ...]

2/5/2006 6:24:07 PM

all b/c of one dude.

ok

2/5/2006 10:35:03 PM

Herzog is crazaaaaay

ever seen the deleted cast test with jason robards and mick jagger for fitzcaraldo

good lord that dude has balls

i wish i could find my poster in digital form

2/5/2006 10:48:38 PM

I didnt like it at all.

2/6/2006 12:46:56 AM

everybody here who is asking what is this film about:

mental illness.


im no scientist or shrink but... some people break with reality, go nuts and murder people, and some go live with wild bears in fucking alaska and videotape 12 hours a day of their insanity. lets not forget he referred to his death before it ever happened several times, i think his illness led him to believe he was going to get eaten so he just waited for it to happen. i think its pretty shitty it happened when that chick was out there with him and she got eaten too. she was only doing him cause she felt sorry for a crazy guy. like a conjugal visit or something.

btw, that guy makes andy dick look like sean connery. his real name wasnt even treadwell. oh and his friends and family who allowed him to go alaska should be held criminally neglegent in the death of the chick. coming next season on law and order.

2/6/2006 1:15:10 AM

criminally neglegent ?

what, was she like 10 years old?

2/6/2006 12:32:15 PM

i dont know, call special victims unit man.

2/6/2006 10:23:05 PM

However one interprets the documentary, it is pretty obvious from Tim's extensive rants that he is not there to ultimately serve the bears. He's there for his own mental and emotional stability.

2/6/2006 10:33:13 PM

instability

2/6/2006 10:36:24 PM

^ hahaha

2/6/2006 10:37:26 PM

I enjoyed it.

2/6/2006 11:49:33 PM

I watched a good bit of the movie and was not impressed. Treadwell was a raging lunatic in many parts and I could no longer stand his nasaly voice.

2/7/2006 4:16:43 PM

They didn't want anyone to hear the audio but there is apparently a transcript of it. My husband read it and said it's pretty gruesome. I wouldn't want to know anymore about it than what's in the movie. It wasn't technically an audio tape. They didn't get the lens cap off of the video camera. I guess they didn't think the bear was going to kill them.

The situation was, the regular grizzlies Treadwell was familiar with had already left the Grizzly Maze, and the two were out there later than he usually is, and when the older, grumpier bears show up. Ironically, they were killed the night before they were going to be picked up to go home.

2/7/2006 8:48:37 PM

i think the whole leaving the lens cap off thing means he set it up. seems like he was ready for his bear assisted suicide. he probably thought the girl would run away.

i wonder what part of him the bear was eating that allowed him to speak and moan but not defend himself? and how did a bear eat that much of him and she not wake up till then?

2/7/2006 11:00:19 PM

defend himself?

it's a bear.

and im not sure where you're getting she wasn't awake....

prrrrrrrreeeetty sure she was awake the entire time

2/7/2006 11:05:34 PM

I don't think this was a suicide (I don't completely rule it out), and she is a grown woman to take resposibility for her actions. Anyway... Tim Treadwell(or whatever his name really is) was a self-serving dumbass who just wanted attention and eventually got eaten by a bear. But I guess thats bound to happen when you get that close to a fuckin grizzly bear.

[Edited on February 7, 2006 at 11:34 PM. Reason : fuckin idiot]

2/7/2006 11:34:03 PM