can we get this whole article?http://insider.espn.go.com/ncf/insider/columns/story?columnist=kiper_jr_mel&id=2282715&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fncf%2finsider%2fcolumns%2fstory%3fcolumnist%3dkiper_jr_mel%26id%3d2282715
1/11/2006 7:45:14 PM
and this too plz?http://insider.espn.go.com/ncf/insider/columns/story?columnist=kiper_jr_mel&id=2282772&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fncf%2finsider%2fcolumns%2fstory%3fcolumnist%3dkiper_jr_mel%26id%3d2282772
1/11/2006 7:51:22 PM
Jan. 6, 2006 | Now that underclassmen are declaring for the NFL draft, the Top 5 list will take on a different look in the coming weeks. Instead of Top 5 Seniors by Position, it is now Top 5 Players by Position, based on seniors and underclassmen who are involved in the draft process. Expect many more changes in the next few weeks, since underclassmen have until Jan. 15 to declare for April's draft. Quarterbacks1. Matt Leinart, USC2. Jay Cutler, Vanderbilt3. Brodie Croyle, Alabama4. Darrell Hackney, UAB5. Charlie Whitehurst, Clemson5a. Barrick Nealy, Texas State5b. Kellen Clemens, Oregon5c. Bruce Eugene, Grambling Running Backs1. DeAngelo Williams, Memphis2. Laurence Maroney, Minnesota (Junior)3. Joseph Addai, LSU4. Jerome Harrison, Washington State5. Leon Washington, Florida State5a. Andre Hall, South Florida5b. P.J. Daniels, Georgia Tech Fullbacks1. Lawrence Vickers, Colorado2. J.D. Runnels, Oklahoma3. Matt Bernstein, Wisconsin4. Daccus Turman, South Carolina5. David Kirtman, USC Wide Receivers1. Santonio Holmes, Ohio State (Junior)2. Derek Hagan, Arizona State3. Sinorice Moss, Miami4. Chad Jackson, Florida (Junior)5. Hank Baskett, New Mexico5a. Maurice Stovall, Notre Dame5b. Brandon Williams, Wisconsin5c. Greg Lee, Pittsburgh (Junior)5d. Travis Wilson, Oklahoma5e. Jonathan Orr, Wisconsin Tight Ends1. Vernon Davis, Maryland (Junior)2. Leonard Pope, Georgia (Junior)3. Owen Daniels, Wisconsin4. Dominique Byrd, USC5. David Thomas, Texas5a. Marcedes Lewis, UCLA5b. Joe Klopfenstein, Colorado5c. Tim Day, Oregon Tackles1. D'Brickashaw Ferguson, Virginia2. Ryan O'Callaghan, California3. Jeremy Trueblood, Boston College4. Marcus McNeill, Auburn5. Andrew Whitworth, LSU5a. Eric Winston, Miami Guards1. Jason Spitz, Louisville2. Taitusi Lutui, USC3. Max Jean-Gilles, Georgia4. Kevin Boothe, Cornell5. Rob Sims, Ohio State5a. Davin Joseph, Oklahoma5b. E.J. Whitley, Texas Tech Centers1. Nick Mangold, Ohio State2. Greg Eslinger, Minnesota3. Ryan Cook, New Mexico4. Mike Degory, Florida5. Marvin Philip, California Place-Kickers1. Stephen Gostkowski, Memphis2. Josh Huston, Ohio State3. Connor Hughes, Virginia4. Deric Yaussi, Wyoming5. Kurt Smith, Virginia Defensive Ends1. Mario Williams, NC State (Junior)2. Tamba Hali, Penn State3. Mathias Kiwanuka, Boston College4. Kamerion Wimbley, Florida State5. Manny Lawson, NC State5a. Elvis Dumervil, Louisville5b. Ray Edwards, Purdue (Junior)5c. Jason Hatcher, Grambling5d. Charlton Keith, Kansas Defensive Tackles1. Orien Harris, Miami2. Claude Wroten, LSU3. Brodrick Bunkley, Florida State4. Kyle Williams, LSU5. Titus Adams, Nebraska Inside Linebackers1. D'Qwell Jackson, Maryland2. Abdul Hodge, Iowa3. Gerris Wilkinson, Georgia Tech4. Oliver Hoyte, NC State5. Leon Williams, Miami Outside Linebackers1. A.J. Hawk, Ohio State2. DeMeco Ryans, Alabama3. Chad Greenway, Iowa4. Thomas Howard, UTEP5. Bobby Carpenter, Ohio State5a. Cameron Vaughn, LSU5b. Rocky McIntosh, Miami Cornerbacks1. Jimmy Williams, Virginia Tech2. Antonio Cromartie, Florida State (Junior)3. Kelly Jennings, Miami4. DeMario Minter, Georgia5. Anwar Phillips, Penn State5a. Marcus Hudson, NC State5b. Jason Allen, Tennessee5c. Tye Hill, Clemson5d. Marcus Maxey, Miami5e. Alan Zemaitis, Penn State5f. Cedric Griffin, Texas Safeties1. Michael Huff, Texas2. Anthony Smith, Syracuse3. Bernard Pollard, Purdue (Junior)4. Dwayne Slay, Texas Tech5. Daniel Bullocks, Nebraska Punters1. John Torp, Colorado2. Steve Weatherford, Illinois3. Tom Malone, USC4. Jeff Williams, Adams State (Colo.)5. Sam Paulescu, Oregon State Click here to send a question for Mel Kiper for possible use on ESPNEWS.
1/11/2006 7:51:43 PM
There have been some major changes and additions to the Big Board now that underclassmen are declaring for the 2006 NFL draft. Until a junior officially declares for April's draft, that player will not appear on the Big Board but will remain with the junior rankings. Of the underclassmen who have declared, NC State defensive end Mario Williams has the highest grade according to my ratings, followed by Maryland tight end Vernon Davis, Ohio State wide receiver Santonio Holmes, Georgia tight end Leonard Pope, Minnesota RB Laurence Maroney and Florida wide receiver Chad Jackson. Williams has a chance to be the first defensive player selected, and Davis figures to wow the NFL brass during the combine and individual workouts. Holmes easily could be the first receiver selected, and Pope is right behind Davis at the tight end position. Maroney has the potential to become a middle to late first-round pick. Jackson, Florida's leading receiver, also could figure into the first-round mix. The status of all the underclassmen won't really be defined clearly until their measurables are verified at the combine workout and individual testing. As for the seniors, LSU defensive tackle Claude Wroten remains in the top 25, although an off-the-field issue will have to be monitored. We are all anxiously awaiting the decisions of Texas quarterback Vince Young and USC running back Reggie Bush. Both would catapult to the top of the draft board, right up there with USC QB Matt Leinart. After Young's incredible performance in the Rose Bowl, he certainly has to be in the thought process of teams selecting in the top three spots. Put it this way, if Young and Bush are part of the 2006 NFL draft, it would be a three-horse race between those two and Leinart to see who will be the No. 1 overall pick on April 29. My entire Big Board:Stephen Dunn/Getty ImagesMatt Leinart remains at the top of the Big Board, at least for the time being.1. Matt Leinart, QB, USC (6-4, 225 pounds) | previous rank: sameHis arm strength has improved since last season, and he is throwing the ball even better. Leinart might not have repeated as the Heisman Trophy winner, but he makes plays when he has to. He should remain at the top of the draft board. 2. Mario Williams, DE, NC State (6-7, 285) | previous rank: unranked (Junior)A dominant physical presence and had some great individual performances at the end of year. Williams is a big, strong pro-type defensive end and has all skills NFL coaches are looking for. 3. D'Brickashaw Ferguson, OT, Virginia (6-5½, 295) | previous rank: 5Came back from a knee injury and still remains the top offensive lineman on the board. Ideal left tackle in the NFL. 4. A.J. Hawk, LB, Ohio State (6-1½, 242) | previous rank: 2The top defensive player in the senior class. An instinctive player and a sure tackler, he knows which angles to take to the ball and finds his way through traffic very well. 5. DeMeco Ryans, OLB, Alabama (6-1½, 235) | previous rank: 4Leader of the Crimson Tide defense. Has impressed in the Tide's biggest games this season. Alabama's defense did all it could to try to keep undefeated season alive. 6. Tamba Hali, DE, Penn State (6-3, 267) | previous rank: 3Has been at the top of his game all year. Hali is the best player on one of the best defenses in the country. A natural pass-rusher who has been fun to watch all season. Kevin C. Cox/WireImage.comMaryland tight end Vernon Davis may very well be a top-10 pick in the 2006 draft.7. Vernon Davis, TE, Maryland (6-3, 250) | previous rank: unranked (Junior)Physically gifted athlete who plays the tight end like a wide receiver. Davis is a phenomenal pass catcher and is a better prospect than when Kellen Winslow came out of Miami. 8. DeAngelo Williams, RB, Memphis (5-9, 215) | previous rank: 6Third in the nation in rushing yards per game, despite not playing behind one of the best offensive lines. Could very well be a top-10 pick. 9. Michael Huff, DB, Texas (6-1, 205) | previous rank: 8Athletic and instinctive, he has shown the versatility to play cornerback or safety at the next level. 10. Jay Cutler, QB, Vanderbilt (6-3¼, 227) | previous rank: 9Second-best senior QB on the board behind Matt Leinart. Has the potential to be a first-round pick, depending on how he performs in the Senior Bowl and individual workouts. 11. Santonio Holmes, WR, Ohio State (5-10, 185) | previous rank: unranked (Junior)He is very tough and is willing to make catches in traffic. Holmes is a very good route runner and has a good burst out of his break. Holmes doesn't have the greatest size, but is very tough. 12. Leonard Pope, TE, Georgia (6-7, 250) | previous rank: unranked (Junior)He's an absolutely huge target and is a mismatch every time he's on the field. Georgia relied heavily on Pope in the passing game because he is a rare talent for a player of his size. AP PhotoLaurence Maroney rushed for 3,933 in three years at Minnesota.13. Laurence Maroney, RB, Minnesota (5-11, 205) | previous rank: unranked (Junior)A very good natural runner who is very smooth and patient. At Minnesota, Maroney allowed his blocks to get set up and develop. He has good vision and the ability to shift gears quickly. 14. Jimmy Williams, CB, Virginia Tech (6-2½, 207) | previous rank: 7Gives the Hokies a shutdown cornerback who can lock up the opposing team's top receiver. He eliminates one side of the field. A former safety who moved to corner before the 2004 season. 15. Chad Greenway, LB, Iowa (6-2½, 244) | previous rank: 11Has become one of the nation's topflight linebackers the past two years. A smart player with great physical skills, Greenway knows how to find the ball and can go all over the field to get to it. 16. Mathias Kiwanuka, DE, Boston College (6-5½, 260) | previous rank: 13Came back from an injury against Virginia during season. A tremendous talent who needs to polish his pass-rushing skills. 17. Derek Hagan, WR, Arizona State (6-1½, 203) | previous rank: 12A precise route runner who will come into the NFL in 2006 with a great understanding of what is expected to be an immediate contributor. 18. Orien Harris, DT, Miami (6-3, 307) | previous rank: 10Blessed with a ton of talent, Harris has bounced back from a subpar junior campaign. He has maximized his ability on a consistent basis in 2005. 19. Thomas Howard, LB, UTEP (6-2½, 233) | previous rank: 15Has come a long way since his days as a walk-on defensive back. UTEP's best defensive player, Howard is a gifted athlete with 4.4 speed who covers the field from sideline to sideline. 20. Sinorice Moss, WR, Miami (5-8½ 183) | previous rank: 16Can turn a short completion into a coast-to-coast TD. Not great size, but Moss has great speed and should excel at the next level. 21. Chad Jackson, WR, Florida (6-1, 205) | previous rank: unranked (Junior)Has the ability to make a play after the catch. Jackson averaged 22.3 yards per catch as a sophomore and had 81 receptions in 2005. Worked the underneath routes for Chris Leak very well and kept chains moving in 2005. 22. Ryan O'Callaghan, OT, California (6-6½, 340) | previous rank: 21Depending on who comes out early, O'Callaghan could end up being the highest-rated right tackle prospect in the draft. Prototype right tackle at the next level. Very tough; he played through a broken wrist for most of 2004 and battled through a concussion in '05. 23. Claude Wroten, DT, LSU (6-2, 293) | previous rank: 14Solid and reliable, Wroten has given LSU consistent play throughout the season. 24. Brodrick Bunkley, DT, Florida State (6-2½ 305) | previous rank: 17Combines strength with quickness and a relentless approach. A very effective pass-rusher for an interior lineman. 25. Kyle Williams, DT, LSU (6-1½, 294) | previous rank: sameConsistent and productive, he gets overshadowed at times by teammate Claude Wroten, who lines up next to him on the defensive line. Williams never disappears from the action. DROPPED Jason Spitz, G/C, Louisville (6-3½ 307) | previous rank: 18Versatile player who will have a long career at the next level. Strongest player on Louisville's roster. Anthony Smith, DB, Syracuse (6-1, 194) | previous rank: 19Real playmaker on a team that struggled in 2005. Combines excellent cover skills with a rugged, hard-nosed approach. Smith is not only a quality free safety but also has made a dramatic impact on special teams throughout his impressive stay in the Big East. Dwayne Slay, FS, Texas Tech (6-3½, 210) | previous rank: 20A very physical and hard-hitting safety, Slay led the Red Raiders in tackles and set a Big 12 record with eight forced fumbles. Elvis Dumervil, DE, Louisville (6-0, 256) | previous rank: 22Feared and disruptive sack artist. Has at least two sacks in five games this season and leads the nation with 20 sacks. Reminds me of Colts DEs Dwight Freeney and Robert Mathis. Max Jean-Gilles, G, Georgia (6-4, 350) | previous rank: 23One of the best guards in the country, Jean-Gilles had a solid outing against a great LSU defensive line in the SEC title game. Marcedes Lewis, TE, UCLA (6-6, 258) | previous rank: 24Has legit 4.5 speed and a perfect frame for the position. Leads the Bruins in receptions, yards and touchdowns.
1/11/2006 7:54:32 PM
mad props to you my manpsDWAYNE SLAY
1/11/2006 8:24:13 PM
http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft06/insider/columns/story?id=2279106&action=upsell&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnfl%2fdraft06%2finsider%2fcolumns%2fstory%3fid%3d2279106Any chance you can post that so we can see the first mock draft?
1/11/2006 8:49:55 PM
1/11/2006 8:56:45 PM
ooooh sinorice moss
1/11/2006 9:18:59 PM
1/11/2006 9:21:43 PM
^he's staying for his senior year
1/11/2006 9:40:49 PM
Irrelevant, he said he was coming back for his senior season.bah I'm slow[Edited on January 11, 2006 at 9:42 PM. Reason : .]
1/11/2006 9:42:02 PM
^^^^^ God I hope Mario doesn't get drafted by Arizona. Granted Adrian Wilson has done well there, but I hope he is on a winning team and we can actually get to see some of his games on national TV.
1/12/2006 11:57:38 AM
Anyone but Arizona
1/12/2006 12:30:05 PM
do people really think that lendale white will fall to the steelers? i would think he'd be gone by then, but it'd be awesome if we could land him
1/12/2006 12:36:14 PM
that mock draft up there is garbagevince young wont drop down to 4th, hell, I'm not even going to start listing all the dumb picks that draft has made
1/12/2006 12:36:34 PM
ehe, didn't notice some of those picks....Is Jay Cutler really thought of that highly? wtfGaines Adams over Elvis and Manny? [Edited on January 12, 2006 at 12:42 PM. Reason : ]
1/12/2006 12:41:20 PM
^^I agree, no way in hell the Titans would pass up on Young.
1/12/2006 12:45:56 PM
well Manny is more than likely going to play Linebacker in the NFL, so you cant really compare him to other DE's coming out this year
1/12/2006 12:53:18 PM
I dunnoHe looked a little lost at OLB while at State. IMO, he could become a Jevon Kearse style DE...athletic, rangy, fast DE
1/12/2006 12:55:19 PM
Didnt cutler get SEC player of the year? I know he was pre-season poy, but I thought I heard he was the final poy also.
1/12/2006 12:55:44 PM
yea scouts have been all over his jock all season. His biggest upside is leading Vanderbilt to 5 wins. His stats were pretty good also with 3000+ yards. I wonder how good he could be on a team worth a shit
1/12/2006 2:57:08 PM
^That's what people wondered about Tim Couch too though. And where is he now?
1/12/2006 3:09:28 PM
um, the whole point of "wondering" about something is because you don't know. it's a given that the outcome is unknown.
1/12/2006 3:28:12 PM
we need more draft-related shit
1/12/2006 4:04:21 PM
Lawson didnt fair as well as i thought he would at linebacker while he was here.
1/12/2006 4:20:00 PM
isn't he like 6'6"? how many 6'6" linebackers are there?
1/12/2006 4:33:26 PM
yeahshut up with your linebacker talk kidsi would never make somebody like him a LBhe would be hitting the weights like a madman trying his best to become Osi Umenyiora
1/12/2006 4:36:45 PM
I think he'll play DE still. Hell, if they can put 10-15 lbs on him he would be 6'6" 260 or so...that doesnt sound bad to me...if they keep him at DE, he can gain a few lbs and not have to worry about losing speed...he's got enough where he can slow down some and not worry. Arent most DE's around 6'2 or 3 and 250? Mario and Peppers are freaks of nature...dont include them.
1/12/2006 7:03:54 PM
I think most effective NFL DE's (Without looking them up) are around 6'4" - 6' 5". Manny is 6'6" Mario is 6'7"
1/12/2006 7:07:13 PM
Most 4-3 scheme DE's are in the 6'2"-6'5" 270-285 range. DE's in the 3-4 are obviously more towards 300lbs. If Manny can get up to 270, I think he can be very effective in a 4-3.Here are the Panther DE's for example.
1/12/2006 7:08:49 PM
The Panther's have Professional Engineers (PE's) ?Sign me up [Edited on January 12, 2006 at 7:14 PM. Reason : Although I'm only an EI ]
1/12/2006 7:13:44 PM
The Titans will take Leinart w/ the second pick if they have him b/c they have norm chow as oc..he already coached leinart and those two together again would be great for the team and the pr surrounding the team the rest of the offseason (i.e. sell more tickets)
1/12/2006 7:18:43 PM
Manny will play LB in the pros. Mark it down.He will be a pass-rushing OLB in a 3-4 scheme.
1/12/2006 8:33:25 PM
1/13/2006 11:55:14 AM
^^maybe the steelers could pick him up in the 2nd round after getting LenDale White in the 1st
1/13/2006 1:15:23 PM
^that wont happen, LenDale will be gone before the Steelers picka lot of those picks are messed up, I dont think it was made taking what a team needs into much consideration.I hope Manny does play DE in the pros, but I am willing to bet that he will end up playing LB
1/13/2006 2:12:11 PM
arizona? oh god
1/13/2006 3:12:35 PM
Arizona has potential... their defense has improved over the years and Fitzgerald is quickly becoming an elite receiver.They need to get a running game going though...I like Denny Green as a regular season coach, just not so much as a playoff one...
1/13/2006 3:30:12 PM
1/13/2006 3:56:07 PM
haha
1/14/2006 3:43:56 PM
can we get this:http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft06/insider/columns/story?id=2313428&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnfl%2fdraft06%2finsider%2fcolumns%2fstory%3fid%3d2313428and this:http://insider.espn.go.com/ncf/insider/columns/story?columnist=kiper_jr_mel&id=2299418&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fncf%2finsider%2fcolumns%2fstory%3fcolumnist%3dkiper_jr_mel%26id%3d2299418thanks kids
1/31/2006 2:54:39 PM
1/31/2006 3:02:53 PM
1/31/2006 3:04:10 PM
Kipper's picks make more sense. but i think Kiwanuka will go higher.and I still think/hope Rivers will end up with the Jets[Edited on January 31, 2006 at 3:45 PM. Reason : sdfgdsfgsdf]
1/31/2006 3:41:07 PM
No love for Manny?
1/31/2006 3:46:40 PM
someone with ESPN INSIDERS needs to post Peter Gammons weekly articles.
1/31/2006 4:58:48 PM
The deal entailed more than 110 phone calls between assistant GMs Chris Antonetti of the Indians and Jed Hoyer of the Red Sox alone, separate from conversations between Mark Shapiro, Theo Epstein, Pat Gillick and Reds GMs Dan O'Brien and Brad Kullman, who had been a part of all this for weeks. Then there were the complex physicals for Guillermo Mota and Arthur Rhodes, and, finally, getting the Commissioner's Office to sign off on the cash Boston is -- and, perhaps, will -- pay Cleveland. Finally, on Saturday morning, Shapiro called Antonetti. "Now," said Shapiro, "we begin our 13-day offseason." It was a hectic week for the Indians, who traded one of their most popular and ascending players to get what they and many others consider a special, future, corner star (third baseman Andy Marte) and enough of an upgrade in Mota and catcher Kelly Shoppach to continue building for the long run and not compromise their 2006 season. But for the Red Sox, this was the end to a week that might spawn another dozen books. oh wait, im not gonna post the whole thing, cause i dont fucking need to post shit, you bitch[Edited on January 31, 2006 at 5:42 PM. Reason : anyone else want anything, lemme know]
1/31/2006 5:42:03 PM
im having a hard time figuring out why the packers need mario williams
1/31/2006 6:36:44 PM
dude ^^^, I understand you don't have insiders and want people to post certain articles and I'm sure they don't have a problem with doing it every now and then.. but is it really that much money to spend if you want to read weekly articles on top of all these other insider articles asked for?
1/31/2006 9:43:29 PM
thanks guys i love you
1/31/2006 10:32:42 PM