Alright, ive had a damn nuff with these fuckin sports center anchors placing USC over damn near every team in cfb history. To sum it all up, they place them over the 2001 hurricanes?!?!?!?!?

Thats obviously like night and day. The canes were waaaaay better. Are these guys tryn to be funny with this shit or what? I like USC, but i don't even think they were better than the 00 noles. Or, a shit load of other teams the anchors shunned. And its not even the anchors, people are actually voting for these results. Am I missing something here?

Man i really can't wait til texas kicks dat ass

12/29/2005 1:18:31 AM

the whole thing seems like a waste of a segment

12/29/2005 1:20:08 AM

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"OMG threepeat, dynasty, best offense ever, best player ever, best quarterback ever"

12/29/2005 1:35:35 AM

it is, indeed, a waste of a segment. just like the simulated press conferences. espn is having fun wasting everyone's time, i.e. stupid segments and lame movies.

12/29/2005 2:47:32 AM

But on top of that people are actually voting USC over historic teams. I agree that they were better than some past teams. But its like now, people (anchors,commentators)voters are saying that they are the best.

My whole reason for this thread was to see how many people agreed. USC seems to have alot of support nowadays. And it became evident when that dude picked them over the 01' canes.

Jeremey Shockey
Clinton Portis
Andre Johnson
Ed Reed
Phillip Buchanon
Vince Wilfork
Just to name a few of the 11 first round Miami draft picks that year. And USC is better??? Hell no

12/29/2005 3:50:11 AM

^
not to mention a young willis mcgahee

USC is way overhyped, they are a great team but i think people forget they only play one or two tough games a year and also i think if anything the 04 USC team is better than the 05 USC because they had a defense

12/29/2005 4:16:44 AM

hell i thought 97 Michigan was better, NOT TO MENTION 00 Miami, christ.

12/29/2005 7:14:00 AM

if they said that USC would lose to any team but the number one team then people would stop watching the segments...

eh, GO LONGHORNS (man, i hope they're getting PISSED watching espn felate USC for the last week and a half)

12/29/2005 7:15:36 AM

1995 Nebraska


Best team ever.

12/29/2005 7:18:54 AM

I'll laugh really hard if they can't beat '05 Texas

12/29/2005 8:35:39 AM

02 Buckeyes baby!

12/29/2005 8:53:43 AM

^This thread isn't about the worst teams to win the National Championship.

12/29/2005 8:55:46 AM

actually, i don't know that they'd beat the '02 buckeyes (luck, while not quantifiable, should still be considered)...
if anyone sat down and really thought about it they could probably come up with at least half a dozen teams in the last 15 years who would beat usc...

12/29/2005 8:57:04 AM

don't be jealous of the 02 buckeyes. they were 13 pt underdogs, had the best defense in recent history, went 13-0 and knocked the shit out of ken dorsey all day. NATIONAL CHAMPS BABY!!!

jealousy is a terrible thing

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12/29/2005 9:58:28 AM

02 Wolfpack...haha

12/29/2005 3:07:36 PM

i dont think they would have beaten that '99 FSU team

12/29/2005 10:41:26 PM

Herbstreit picked against USC today

but I think it was OSU...so it's not really fair

12/29/2005 10:45:17 PM

How can you say that a half dozen teams would beat USC. 2000 Miami and maybe 95 Nebraska could, but the game would still be great. USC has one of the top 10 QB's and RB's of All time. Bush may be the moste talented RB ever and White may be the second best RB in the nation. The defense is suspect, but the O is so so great it can score at will. USC would compete with anyone. I only have them losing to Miami.

12/29/2005 11:17:46 PM

Clinton Portis wasn't drafted in the first round.

12/29/2005 11:20:52 PM

we still dont know what happens if usc plays a complete team. wait to the texas game before you go saying usc could compete with anybody ever.

12/29/2005 11:34:11 PM

my bad, round 2 pick 19. Shit, USC still dosn't hold a candle to that team tho'. And that year Miami did have a record number of first round guys go pro.

12/29/2005 11:34:43 PM

shit 03 lsu and auburn last year coudve beat them too

12/29/2005 11:35:30 PM

I honestly don't think bush is one of the most talented rbs ever either. He's top ten, and he is badass, but there are some really great rbs out this year (who are true rbs, bruisers/finesse in one package). You just dont hear from them b/c they're on sorry teams. Kid from memphis broke ncaa record this year in rushing. And there is another dude who has more yards than he and bush.

Bush is the man this year, but you can't say he is the best ever. You just can't say that without looking back in history.

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12/29/2005 11:42:50 PM

if bush played for memphis he would have done the same...but ricky williams and ron dayne are up there

12/30/2005 12:03:38 AM

^i dont know about that. bush isnt a bruiser and wouldnt have as much sucess rushing without wide open holes to sprint to. if he played for memphis most of his yards wouldve been receiving.

12/30/2005 12:06:56 AM

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"This thread isn't about the worst teams to win the National Championship."

even if thats true, i'd rather be known as that than the best team to finish #2

don't be jealous

12/30/2005 12:09:18 AM

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"auburn last year coudve beat them too"

I'm not sure about that one.

But we'll never know, because of this fucking retarded system.

12/30/2005 12:11:42 AM

Bush doesn't need holes.... ever watched him play? He doesn't just flat outrun you, he cuts back across field, make you fall flat on your face, and turns on the afterburners a-la Dante Hall.


Bush is one of the best ever...easily. IMO the most talented college athelete ever (At this point in his career), by far. Best RB? Hmm... it's hard to compare him with Ricky Williams, Herschel Walker, Barry Sanders, OJ Simpson, etc considering they all had very different styles. I could easily make an argument that he was better than all of them thus far in college, the opposite is also true


The kid is freakin nasty, and if there's anything about USC that isn't over-rated it's Reggie Bush.

USC's offense this year is probably the best ever assembled in college, but USC's team last year was better. Much better. Their defense may not be enough to hold off Texas... would'nt be too surprised if the horns pull it off. I hope they do



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12/30/2005 12:12:43 AM

what i dont get is people act like they never seen a person get juked?!!?!!??! Peter Warrick hello, Torry Holt, Michael Vick, Charles Woodson, Woodrow Dantzler. Reconsider best athelete dude.

If you honestly watched film on these guys, you would not believe that bush is the best athelete ever easily.

[Edited on December 30, 2005 at 12:21 AM. Reason : .]

12/30/2005 12:17:09 AM

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"Peter Warrick hello, Torry Holt, Michael Vick, Charles Woodson, Woodrow Dantzler. Reconsider best athelete dude."

The fact that you mentioned Dantzler in there is funny.

None of those mentioned above was a "man amongst boys' like Bush is. They were all great players who could singlehandedly win games, but Bush is just on another level from these guys.

Out of that bunch, Warrick was the best... and I still don't think he played out of his league like Bush did

12/30/2005 12:26:17 AM

You are outta your fuckin mind dude. None of these guys was a man amongst boys???
wtf are you really saying????
Im really lost now???

Man amongst boys = person who can singlehandedly takeover a game
last time i checked

more people: Charlie Ward, Warrick Dunn, Tommy Frazier
this is terrible

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12/30/2005 12:29:13 AM

You think what you want to think. They were all great players.

I personally don't feel like arguing about it

12/30/2005 12:36:07 AM

then don't and get the fuck out.

man, nobody wants to argue with you. You just made a dumbass point of hellafied contradictory. Saying that none of them was a "man amongst boys"...well what the hell is "a man amongst boys"?? Superchild??

I just thought you had "credibility amongst football". Guess i was wrong.

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12/30/2005 12:38:22 AM

Yah, I'll do that

12/30/2005 12:43:09 AM

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"Bush doesn't need holes.... ever watched him play? He doesn't just flat outrun you, he cuts back across field, make you fall flat on your face, and turns on the afterburners a-la Dante Hall. "

i agree bush is amazing and one of the best all aorund athletes ever but as a running back running throuhgh the line your cutback opportunity will rarely be there. dante hall doesnt play runnning back. all i was saying is that bush woulndt of matched williams rushing yards if he was on memphis.


none of the other great offenses consistently played terrible defenses the way they have in the pac10. notre dames bad pass d was the only complete team they played all season and they LOST that game. greatest teams ever dont win games off 3 consecutive bogus plays to end a game.

12/30/2005 1:21:50 AM

rubbish

12/30/2005 1:32:45 AM

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?columnist=forde_pat&id=2273619

Does this mean i should root for USC?

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"Pete Carroll likes to tell the story about his days as an assistant coach at North Carolina State in the early 1980s "

Silly ESPN, makes me hate USC's guts and then tries to convince me to love them.

12/30/2005 2:47:54 AM

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"the whole thing seems like a waste of a segment"

12/30/2005 2:50:29 AM

^^ I'll pull for USC just for that.

12/30/2005 2:52:14 AM

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"Does this mean i should root for USC?"

Holy shit, I had no idea about that.

GO USC! Former NC State assistant vs. former UNC coach...easy call here.

Maybe if he wins another one he'll decide coaching at USC isn't a challenge anymore and move back to the east coast.

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12/30/2005 3:17:49 AM

so... basically... they're saying that between Pete Carroll, Norm Chow, and Lane Kiffin the USC offense is directly descended from NC State...
best NC STate football news i've heard all year

12/30/2005 7:27:20 AM

this whole piece has been stupid, the last two USC teams were better than the 2005 trojans

the huskers from 95 (i think) that they showed this morning with frazier and phillips and that D would have fucked the trojans up...

did these guys watch the fresno st game, or the ND game, fucking ND is good this year, but not near as good as some of those classic teams

they have wasted the segment by merely picking USC to win, and the national poll is worthless b/c most people will just vote for the current/most recent team online

and yes "theone" the 2001 hurricanes would have fucked USC UP, raped their mothers, put their military fatigues back on, and be back on south beach ripping lines at CrowBar before the night was up!

12/30/2005 10:35:56 AM

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"then don't and get the fuck out. man, nobody wants to argue with you. You just made a dumbass point of hellafied contradictory. Saying that none of them was a "man amongst boys"...well what the hell is "a man amongst boys"?? Superchild?? I just thought you had "credibility amongst football". Guess i was wrong."

not that this post made any sense, but it did remind me of a base, less-funny, much more ineloquent jim rome rant.

12/30/2005 12:36:40 PM

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"then don't and get the fuck out. man, nobody wants to argue with you. You just made a dumbass point of hellafied contradictory. Saying that none of them was a "man amongst boys"...well what the hell is "a man amongst boys"?? Superchild?? I just thought you had "credibility amongst football". Guess i was wrong.""

Ah, the ole edit after I already responded.

Alright, so what the hell do you want me to say?

I have never...ever.... seen a person dominate a game as much as Reggie Bush in my lifetime. There were other great players who racked up stats, but no one that I have ever seen could make people look so ridiculously stupid on the football field by running circles around them.

Holt and Warrick were great WR's. Frazier, Ward, and Vick were all great athletic QB's who won a lot of games and had great stats.

None of them brought the crowd to their feet every time they touched the ball like Bush does. Every time his knee touches the ground the entire opponent crowd lets out a sigh of relief. Holding Bush to a 10 yard gain every time he touches the ball is a feat.

Now, go ahead and insert your smart ass remarks about how I'm an idiot becuase there were other good players... there were. I think Bush is one of the most explosive, if not THE most explosive, that has ever played in college. Nothing I say is going to convince you that I'm right, and you're just going to sit there and shoot down everyone that disagrees with you.... so it's fucking pointless to argue about it. He's good, leage it at that

12/30/2005 12:46:50 PM

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" I think Bush is one of the most explosive, if not THE most explosive, that has ever played in college."

And PackBacker knows more about football than nearly everyone on here theone.

12/30/2005 1:20:24 PM

I'm not saying I'm right and he's wrong. It's not a matter of knowledge... most of us have seen all of the above players play(Most of the ones he listed were very very recently)


It's all a matter of opinion. An argument could be made either way. I remember watching Vick and Ward a few years back. IMO, Ward was the better of the two, and he was a playmaker, but in my opinion, he wasn't nearly as explosive as Bush is.

I just cannot recall one player giving fits to opposing defenses like Bush does. If you ran a fake reverse to Bush it'd be a free play. 4 open receivers while all 11 guys piled up on Bush on the other side of the field becuase they thought he had the ball... they're that aware of him.

Every time he touches the ball, chances are he'll take it to the endzone. He's averaged like 25 yards per touch countless times this (and last) season.... I just don't think Ward/Vick/R.Williams/Frazier ever had that ability like Bush does. (Obviously Williams and Frazier didn't.... but even explosive QB's like Vick and Ward didn't either...and defenses weren't even keying on them using their feet)


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12/30/2005 1:35:53 PM

hes playing on a team loaded with offensive talent around him and one of the best qbs in the country a great oline great wrs on the "best offense in the history of football" and against the worst defenses in college football. im not saying holt is better but guys like holt were all alone against good defenses

12/30/2005 3:30:27 PM

^ punctuation plz

12/30/2005 3:40:47 PM

Dude look, im not tryn to convince you or anyone else to see things how I see it. But if you know soooo much about football (more than everyone else according to Packboozie) then how can you put Bush over players like Bo Jackson, and a shitload of others, that were before him. This is Bush's first year doing this awwing the crowd. Those guys i mentioned did it their whole career.

My whole thing is, ive seen it all before (what Bush is doing)
Hurdling guys
jukes
speed
(take a look at some Barry Sanders college films, then get at me)

Matter of fact, ive seen it against tougher opponents. Bush hasn't showed me nothing against a tough defense. He only had 75yds last year against OU. Im not taking anything from him at all, believe me. I think he is the best athelete this year, and maybe last year. But guys like Michael Vick, who singlehandedly raped that fsu defense in 00' (one of the best teams of all time) his first year playing. Then returning the following year to reek havoc on everyone.

Then your whole thing about the "man amongst child" is like wtf. I agree with you in that arguing opinions is pointless. But i criticized you for not making sense. I basically wanted you to tell me what was sooo different about bush, that put him "TOP" in the best of all time category.
And how do YOU measure explosive??im curious??everyone i mentioned had the ability to score and any given moment, and did.
But nevermind, im not tryn to be funny by saying this dude. But you continue to saddle up on bush, this is not even what the thread was about, so lets get back on the subject please.

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12/30/2005 3:54:25 PM

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"This is Bush's first year doing this awwing the crowd."

Then clearly, this is your first year paying attention.

12/30/2005 4:24:19 PM