who?

i say this man...

12/20/2005 12:50:06 PM

Tiki Barber has had more of an impact on his team than alex... i say that only because the rest of Tiki's O is ass.

And what about Steve Smithers.

12/20/2005 12:58:59 PM

how many of his TDs came against the worst teams in the nfl?

shaun aint winnin shit

12/20/2005 1:02:36 PM

EITHER:

TOM BRADY
PEYTON MANNING
TIKI BARBER
CARSON PALMER
LT

IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER

12/20/2005 1:06:00 PM

Smitty wont get it. I would love to see it happen, and you can definitely argue that he is the biggest contributor in the NFL to his team's success. However, if Jerry Rice never got it, Steve Smith wont.

Brady aint gettin that either

[Edited on December 20, 2005 at 1:14 PM. Reason : g]

12/20/2005 1:14:21 PM

how could tom brady win over peyton manning

he doesnt have a chance

12/20/2005 1:14:29 PM

Agreed but I would think in any Top 5 Brady needs to be up there. He has played well enough but obviously Palmer and Manning should both get it over him...

12/20/2005 1:21:54 PM

i dont think he should be up there at all

there is no chance in the world that he gets it

even if peyton and carson and ladanian and tiki all died tonight

12/20/2005 1:44:44 PM

two man race . . . palmer and manning

12/20/2005 1:56:28 PM

Quote :

"EITHER: TOM BRADY PEYTON MANNING TIKI BARBER CARSON PALMER LT IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER"

How can you have a top five and not include Shaun Alexander. He leads the league in TDs, is the best player on the best team in the NFC, and has been consistent all year. LT was great early in the season and Peyton has been a stud of late, but if I had a pick, I'd go with Alexander. You cannot punish a professional player just because his team's schedule is weaker.

12/20/2005 2:09:59 PM

why not?

its not that the schedule is just weaker

but its fucking CRAZY weak

give me a break

12/20/2005 2:11:45 PM

NO MATTER HOW GOOD SEATTLE IS THEY ARE STILL A SMALL MARKET TEAM....IF ALEXANDER WAS PLAYING FOR ANY OF THE OTHER POTENTIAL CONTENDERS THEN YES HE WOULD BE MENTIONED BUT HE ISN'T.....I LIKE ALEXANDER BUT HE WILL NOT WIN MVP....SRY

12/20/2005 2:17:43 PM

Sorry there is no way that Shaun isnt in the top 5. Its ludicrous to not even have him in the top 5. ANd I say Edge over Peyton but I can see why Peyton would win. But you CANNOT say Shaun isnt in the top 5.

12/20/2005 2:18:50 PM

Alexander belongs up there regardless of what teams he is playing. All of those teams are still NFL teams. Besides he or the Seahawks can help the schedule they drew.

12/20/2005 2:24:39 PM

141 yards and 4 TDs against Houston

140 yards and 4 TDs against Arizona

223 yards and 3 TDs against SF in two games

284 yards and 5 TDs against St. Louis in two games

14 games played

6 of them against 4 of the worst teams in football

873 yards...over half of his yards to date

16 TDs...two thirds of his numbers in that category





talk about padding some fucking stats




faultered against solid defenses

constantly running the ball to run out the clock protecting massive leads against shitty comp

and the experts know it

which is why he's not oging to win the award





in fact

his ONLY mvp-worthy game against a decent team came against Atlanta with 144 yards and 1 TD

and even Atlanta can be pretty fucking suspect at times




i yawn at your selection

12/20/2005 2:38:01 PM

LARRY JOHNSON

I know he wont win, he has just been a beast over the last 7 games

[Edited on December 20, 2005 at 3:05 PM. Reason : adsf]

12/20/2005 3:05:05 PM

12/20/2005 3:14:05 PM

This years most Valuable player should go to the entire Colt Defense. They have made a huge difference in that team, even though they lost to SD.

12/20/2005 3:24:58 PM

i say Carson Palmer

12/20/2005 3:32:16 PM

Quote :

" and even Atlanta can be pretty fucking suspect at times"

Understatement. They have one of the worst rushing defenses on this side of Houston.



I definitely don't think Alexander deserves it.


I think its ridiculous to suggest anyone other than Peyton Manning.

They're 13-1 and he's the best player in the league by far.... I dont see how you could mention anyone elses name in good faith.

12/20/2005 3:37:35 PM

Marcus Vick....just b/c once he is in the NFL he will be so good. May as well give it to him early.

12/20/2005 3:50:10 PM

Dwight Freeney

12/20/2005 4:13:53 PM

Mannings MVP last year was like alexanders this year as far as garbage games with padding stats.

12/20/2005 4:17:25 PM

i am trying so hard not to say tiki

but having watched every play of every game

i cant think of anyone who has meant more to their team

he comes through it seems every single time they need him with something huge

GO GIANTS

12/20/2005 4:21:56 PM

IF the Panthers win out, Steve Smith stays in first in receptions and receiving yards, and takes the lead in TD receptions, I say give it to him. He's carrying an offense (on possibly the #2 NFC team) with no #2 receiver and no consistent running back.

IF those IF/ANDs don't work out, then Peyton or Shaun.

12/20/2005 4:44:12 PM

Quote :

"However, if Jerry Rice never got it, Steve Smith wont."

jerry rice played with joe montana, steve smith plays with jake delhomme. nuff said

12/20/2005 4:44:34 PM

Steve Smith bahahaha

12/20/2005 5:21:08 PM

Joe Horn.

12/20/2005 5:34:58 PM

tiki bear

12/20/2005 6:35:02 PM

Quote :

"I think its ridiculous to suggest anyone other than Peyton Manning."

Peyton won it last year, and his numbers aren't as good this year. 2 reasons that people might not vote for him.

Tiki has been amazing. So has Steve Smith. Carson Palmer might deserve it more than Manning because he's done almost as well with a weaker supporting cast and less preseason hype. And Shaun Alexander's stats cannot be ignored. Those are 4 more reasons that people might not vote for him.

12/20/2005 6:59:26 PM

Tom Brady. He is the only reason the Patriots have a winning record. He has put that team on his back the entire season and carried them.

12/20/2005 7:49:31 PM

Tiki Barber....no question....Eli wouldn't be doing shit without him in the backfield. He brings everything to that team

(Palmer is a close second0

12/21/2005 12:31:42 AM

bttt

12/21/2005 8:30:26 PM

1. PALMER
2. Alexander
3. Tiki Barber
4. Tom Brady

12/22/2005 12:21:09 AM

Tiki

12/22/2005 9:26:33 AM

Quote :

"Peyton won it last year, and his numbers aren't as good this year. 2 reasons that people might not vote for him."

1) Thats stupid. No one had a problem with Favre winning it three years in a row.

2) He sacrificed some of his numbers for wins.

3) He's clearly the best player in the league.

4) Sure he put his rectum in that poor girl's face, but that was years ago and I don't think you should hold that against him when voting for MVP.

12/22/2005 10:04:39 AM

Quote :

"which is why he's not oging to win the award"

Hmmm I think I said he might get it.

Quote :

"Alexander belongs up there regardless of what teams he is playing. All of those teams are still NFL teams. Besides he or the Seahawks can help the schedule they drew."

Regardless what any of you thought, Alexander got it from the AP today.

1/5/2006 10:40:45 PM

Santana Moss

1/5/2006 10:41:28 PM

i was right
nice to see this thread was bttt

1/5/2006 11:29:15 PM