on his brand new CBR-1000RR.

turns out he bought it yesterday, and it's the only motorcycle he's ever ridden. hasn't taken the riding course or anything.

he got pissed when i said "no offense dude, but that was a dumb idea. you're going to wreck."

11/22/2005 3:41:17 PM

niggas gonna serve himself

11/22/2005 3:49:55 PM

he gonna die

11/22/2005 3:53:55 PM

starting count down now, i bet under 21 days

11/22/2005 3:54:38 PM

convince him to take a riding course

11/22/2005 3:58:35 PM

definitely not a good idea

convince him to take a course soon

11/22/2005 4:02:27 PM

i think he's signed up for one in like january or february

if he still has a motorcycle by then


and even then, the best case scenario that i see as being likely is that he doesn't wreck, but rides around like a scared little girl and never actually really learns how to ride a motorcycle...although it's more likely that he DOES wreck WHILE riding around like a scared little girl and never becoming a good rider.


i told him to read Twist of the Wrist and buy some frame sliders.

he's a total poser, though. he hasn't really played with the throttle at all, yet. i know this because he didn't realize it would wheelie just by applying full power or anything close to it.

[Edited on November 22, 2005 at 4:09 PM. Reason : asdfasd]

11/22/2005 4:07:26 PM

The first time I rode a bike, I had a real problem with the fact that when I twisted the gas, I was pushed back, which caused me to inadvertently twist the gas, which in turn pushed me back....

I'd be dead if I were on a serious bike.

11/22/2005 4:07:53 PM

lol tell him to take a pict of the bike now so he'll remember what it looked like b4 he wrecked it

shit a 600 was too much to start on... scared girl rider i was!

11/22/2005 4:10:08 PM

^^and accelerating the entire way through a corner, even if you think you're going in hot, starting as soon as you turn in (as opposed to from the apex)

and not trying to brake while turning

and not accelerating too hard and spinning the tire while in a corner

those are the big ways that a powerful bike makes you more likely to eat it



target fixation and not understanding countersteering, of course, are issues on any bike

[Edited on November 22, 2005 at 4:12 PM. Reason : ^yep, a modern 600, at least. people don't believe me when i tell them that, but what do i know...]

11/22/2005 4:12:13 PM

I was on my dad's 1982 Yamaha 650,

and it was too much

11/22/2005 4:17:36 PM

nah, you're confusing "too much to learn on" with "enough to fuck yourself up with"

the '82 yamaha is the latter

a new liter class machine is both, several times over.

11/22/2005 4:20:56 PM

Everyone has a different learning curve. Hopefully he doesn't get to optimistic with his.

11/22/2005 4:27:20 PM

Quote :

"and not accelerating too hard and spinning the tire while in a corner"

learned that x2

11/22/2005 4:30:00 PM

^^ haha, i've laid down an 81 yamaha 650xs........


on a gravel road doing about 50

11/22/2005 4:30:11 PM

and stuffed a '98 YZF-600 into a parked car

while exiting a driveway

haha...i won't ever forget that

11/22/2005 4:31:38 PM

Threads like this make me feel pretty comfortable with my decision to not own a bike.

11/22/2005 4:41:01 PM

just show him this.
http://thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=353427

11/22/2005 5:01:17 PM

pfffffttt im getting an old 89 hawk tomorrow. something tells me im going to get tired of the accleration after owning the gsxr after the first day of riding it ... but it's a nice bike with a great suspension to let me know what it's really like to ride compared to gunning it in the straights (although i will miss that part, ill just wheelie instead )

11/22/2005 5:03:40 PM

^it'll be a completely different feel from your gsxr. some things better, some not as fun.

11/22/2005 5:45:07 PM

Quote :

"Threads like this make me feel pretty comfortable with my decision to not own a bike"

11/22/2005 5:47:26 PM

yeah im guessing ill like the vtwin sound better and prob the gas mpg.. haha mine sucked with the shitty jet kit ill get over the acc. though bc i was gettin in too much trouble with the local cary cops.

11/22/2005 5:49:17 PM

dammit

i need another bike

fucking piston

11/22/2005 5:50:46 PM

It won't feel as fast because almost the entire rev range is the power band, so you won't feel the kick in the pants. It can be misleading. Twins are also more forgiving if you go into a turn a gear high, you still have the torque to pull out of it without falling flat. You'll like it.

11/22/2005 5:53:10 PM

Hope he filled out a donor card

11/22/2005 6:01:01 PM

i cant wait for the vtwin powah. i really like the way that they sound too .... im guessing they are cheaper to work on being 2 cylinders who knows this summer bore the bitch out.. haha prob. not.


woodfoot i know it might not be worth it but go find a wrecked 500 and put that engine in.. or just buy a whole new bike like u want.

[Edited on November 22, 2005 at 7:37 PM. Reason : .]

11/22/2005 7:31:58 PM

so if you are complete bike noob what is a good bike to start on? hell i dont even know how to shift gears on the bike.

11/22/2005 7:45:15 PM

gs500 sv650 etc etc etc. ninja 500.

you could start on a 600 but you wont really be "riding" the bike as everyone says just surviving which is true. you dont want to start off with something with too much power bc well we're men and we do dumb shit on them.

11/22/2005 7:48:48 PM

he gonna be die

11/22/2005 7:49:35 PM

do me a favor

tell him to seperate braking & turning

11/22/2005 8:37:44 PM

He'll be another step in proving Darwinism. The SV650 is quite the all around bike. They sound mean with a pipe and from what I hear, make excellent track bikes. I don't know how easy they are as a first bike, but it definately won't become boring nearly as quickly as the 500s.

[Edited on November 22, 2005 at 8:49 PM. Reason : I type words I don't mean to type]

11/22/2005 8:41:00 PM

the funny thing is that he doesn't even realize that he's in way over his head

i mean, he's scared of the bike, but he thinks that he can just keep his hand out of the throttle and be ok

but sooner or later that bike will punk him

11/22/2005 8:45:56 PM

Quote :

"woodfoot i know it might not be worth it but go find a wrecked 500 and put that engine in.. or just buy a whole new bike like u want."

i've thought about it

but i'm thinking a sv650 is in my future

smoothcrim keeps trying to sell me his bike

11/23/2005 12:10:18 AM

hehe he cant get rid of it

11/23/2005 1:41:05 AM

You all are a bunch of haters.

11/23/2005 9:13:12 PM

not hating...just being realistic.

11/23/2005 9:14:19 PM

i just got the hawk today thing sounds bad ass i love blipping the throttle and letting off to hear that vtwin growl!

11/23/2005 9:32:50 PM

show me one instance of us being "haters" in here

please

i'd love to see it

people like this guy are why my gramma doesn't want me to have a motorcycle

if you call that hating, fuck off

11/24/2005 1:19:58 AM

yeah i dont see any hatin. i could have easily gotten a 1000cc for my first or second bike. hell i could have financed on a busa but i know i dont need that power it's just dumb.

i caught myself speeding on the old hawk not even trying today already and that thing is a slug comapared to even an old 600.

11/24/2005 2:28:53 AM

haha, it makes what, 40hp? MAYBE 50?

the bike this dude bought has like 180-something hp and runs 9-second 1/4s. probably runs over 100 in first gear, and i suspect that it would wheelie at WOT at any point up to 100-120 mph

[Edited on November 24, 2005 at 2:35 AM. Reason : asdfasd]

11/24/2005 2:33:27 AM

lol im thinkin 40 hp nah prob around 50-55 with the jet kit, full exhaust, and ignition advancer lol... still less than 1/3 of the powah! of the 1000

[Edited on November 24, 2005 at 10:36 AM. Reason : .]

11/24/2005 10:35:13 AM

good lord man

OH LOOK MY CONCERN IS MY "HATIN'"

11/24/2005 10:41:19 AM

rode the hawk about 250 miles today and 3 refills later im back home haha.. the small gas tank does suck.

harley riders and crotch rockets alike wave at me

met an r1 at a light and i walloped him.. jk.. but he did say nice clean lookin bike as a i was likin his r1

we rode for a lil he did a rolling burnout other than that he had huge chicken strips on his tires oh well.

i was tailing a bmw and some kind of ducati tourer for about an hour that was a lot more fun than the time i tailed the 2 valkarie or whatever crusiers on some back roads

i was leaning in one turn and hit a bump causing the ass end to get air born but the bike planted right back down and i was ok after that whew lol...

yeah topspeed is only 110 dont ask me how i know could really use a 6th gear.

11/24/2005 4:23:06 PM

Hawk is a fun bike...you can REALLy toss it around. I kind of wish I had one to play with. That and a Kawi EX500 and a BMW R1100RS and a Honda CBX and a Kawi Concours and a Yamaha TDM850 and a Triumph (triple; I don't know the latest models) and a Suzi TL1000R and a Suzi SV650.

And probably a handfull of others; I really like vintage Japanese standards and BMW's. Maybe a Duc or an Aprilia or a CLASSIC Agusta MV4...

11/24/2005 4:40:24 PM

A mature person can start on a liter bike and not get hurt. It's all in self control.
The argument about throttle in turns makes sense, but again, if you can control how much you want to twist the trottle, you'd be all right.
I guess the way I see it is it will take him a while to get really comfortable with it, but if he went through 2 other bikes before a 1000, total time might not be much different.
I wouldn't start on a brand new 11k liter bike myself, and very few people I know have enough self control to stay out of trouble(I know I don't), but saying that this guy will kill himself is out of line.

11/24/2005 4:50:07 PM

You might be right. But in my years of experience, I've come to the conclusion that the fucktards and people who don't take the time and effort to learn before they burn FAR outnumber mature folks who approach riding a bike with eduated caution.

11/24/2005 5:03:08 PM

^what he said

11/24/2005 6:20:25 PM

we're not saying this guy is going to kill himself

we're saying the bike is going to kill him

11/24/2005 7:35:56 PM

11/24/2005 9:55:53 PM

^^^^^he might not wreck it

but i'll say that the odds of that are about 2%


and the BEST case scenario is that it WILL severely hamper his learning curve.

it's akin to taking flying lessons in an F-15.

11/25/2005 3:16:13 AM