WOW

10/27/2005 8:57:32 AM

way to pick a loser Bush

10/27/2005 8:57:59 AM

Damn. I was just going to do this.

10/27/2005 8:58:09 AM

oh ps
gg on getting her to quit the day everyone expects the indictments to come out

10/27/2005 8:59:24 AM

link plz?

10/27/2005 9:06:40 AM

turn on a tv

theres your link

10/27/2005 9:08:22 AM

Just heard it on the BBC myself.

I know a couple of us called it in the first Miers thread. Sacrificial lamb...


I'm guessing next up will be minority, previous judge, outspoken conservative and the confirmation will happen very quickly.


Ok actually here's what I posted the first time around, within a week of her announcement as a nominee

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"I think she'll go down pretty fast. Here's my take on the whole deal: IMO Bush & Co. don't want her to be approved. She'll get shot down by all sides due to lack of experience by the conservatives, lack of clear ideology by the moderates, and being a Bush cronie by the liberals. The administration will let Miers fall, with a slight admonishment issued to the Dems, and they'll hoist someone new into the spotlight. It will probably another woman, with tons of judicial experience. Then they'll fight tooth and nail to get her approved. Afterwards, I wouldn't be surprised if Miers takes a position outside the government in the corporate law arena, or is appointed to a district court. Could be good timing on her part - maybe she wants to resign to pursue another opportunity and this path let's her take the fall for the administration...a win-win situation."

I'd say the first part was pretty damn accurate.

[Edited on October 27, 2005 at 9:12 AM. Reason : more]

10/27/2005 9:10:30 AM

http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/10/27/miers.nominations/index.html

10/27/2005 9:12:19 AM

im at work... no tv. so i was looking for an internet link ^thanks

10/27/2005 9:14:02 AM

all I can say is "lol"

Predictable.

10/27/2005 9:17:08 AM

Bush's plan all along?

10/27/2005 9:20:36 AM

OF COURSE it was their plan all along

do you really think they expected this to work? jesus, it's so freaking obvious

now, whoever he picks next will be semi-qualified and will be taken in with open arms. god dammit.

10/27/2005 9:28:33 AM

This is good news

Now Bush needs to find the most qualified person out there rather than using christianity, abortion and gender as litmus tests.

10/27/2005 9:29:39 AM

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"now, whoever he picks next will be semi-qualified and will be taken in with open arms. god dammit."

10/27/2005 9:30:29 AM

and yes, it IS quite convenient that she withdrew on the day indictments were expected

SURELY that's only coincidence

10/27/2005 9:35:32 AM

It's a disinformation tactic

10/27/2005 9:39:13 AM

let the speculation start on who the next person to be named is

10/27/2005 9:41:43 AM

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"gg on getting her to quit the day everyone expects the indictments to come out"

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"Sacrificial lamb..."

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"now, whoever he picks next will be semi-qualified and will be taken in with open arms."

10/27/2005 9:43:30 AM

This is either going horribly wrong or horribly right.

10/27/2005 9:53:23 AM

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"oh ps gg on getting her to quit the day everyone expects the indictments to come out"

Shocking

10/27/2005 9:54:32 AM

Fitzgerald just announced that no news will be released today.

so stfu hippies

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/10/27/D8DGD8NG0.html

[Edited on October 27, 2005 at 10:00 AM. Reason : s]

10/27/2005 9:59:58 AM

STRATEGERY

10/27/2005 10:07:59 AM

10/27/2005 10:15:26 AM

the next candidate is just going to be Miers again, but she'll have cut her hair and grown a mustache.

10/27/2005 10:24:07 AM

All he did was pick someone like himself

10/27/2005 10:36:31 AM

Ok Conservatives... Let's get Judge Edith Jones and Alberto Gonzalez warming up in the bull-pen.

And let's get those silos open on the nuclear option.

10/27/2005 10:53:43 AM

Judge Joe Brown for SC!

10/27/2005 11:43:57 AM

Edith Jones, Pricilla Owens or Janice Rogers Brown?

10/27/2005 12:28:55 PM

WHERE IS THE CAPS

WHERE IS THE SIRENS

ahahhahah. this is a discrace

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"http://www.breitbart.com"

who what?

[Edited on October 27, 2005 at 12:41 PM. Reason : -]

10/27/2005 12:41:20 PM

funny how they will blame it on the conflict with the prez and confidentiality of the things she wrote

10/27/2005 1:02:55 PM

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"Now Bush needs to find the most qualified person out there rather than using christianity, abortion and gender as litmus tests."

Yeah, the president can't use those as a litmus test but everyone else can.

P.S. you just did.

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"now, whoever he picks next will be semi-qualified and will be taken in with open arms."

I don't think you are giving people enough credit. If the next person sucks then they will be rejected also. I do tend to agree with everyone however. I think this was a dummy-nomination. One to just throw people off to make the next person look better by comparison. My guess is that people would be more likely to accept a joe-whoever as time goes on. The public, politicians, and everyone get tired of the constant bickering. I know that I was right after the first nomination. I haven't watched the news at all for this past one. I was spared.

10/27/2005 1:22:19 PM

I don't know if I would say this was planned all along.

If it was, then it didn't come out so hot. Bush has hard-core conservatives against him now. Either this is one huge conspiracy or Bush just keeps fucking up.

10/27/2005 1:40:04 PM

We all knew this was going down hill on the second day... Maybe he will pick someone... ah... qualified or somthing...

10/27/2005 1:57:45 PM

I'm honestly wondering who's going to be tapped next. Specifically, will Bush look to the bench this time?

As far as conspiratorial timing of the story, I'm not convinced. After all, the stories that predate the Leak indictments are going to be bumped off the front page as soon as any indictments become public--even if it is on a Friday. It'd make more sense from a damage control perspective to wait until after the indictments come out to withdraw Miers.

And no, I don't think Bush was planning this all along. I posted that more as an 'out,' albeit tongue-in-cheek, for conservatives who otherwise may not be able to articulate a response. I was a little surprised to hear the idea seriously suggested by coworkers this morning.

10/27/2005 2:19:39 PM

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"I don't think Bush was planning this all along."

near impossible

10/27/2005 3:03:18 PM

bush? planning?

ahahahahaha

10/27/2005 5:31:42 PM

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"P.S. you just did."

uhm, no he didn't

its one thing to pick a person who is an excellent candidate for the appointment who happens to be possibly be pro-life

its another thing to pick someone who is prolife, and may be an excellent candidate

10/27/2005 5:40:48 PM

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"OF COURSE it was their plan all along"

I also doubt that it was planned as well. By allowing the religious conservatives to scuttle the nomination, Bush looks a LOT weaker politically; instead of being the leader whom they rally around, he's instead become the weak politician that can be bullied by the faction. He thus loses a lot of control because of this withdrawal.

I personally think this failure was due to divided attention within the White House thanks to the entire Valerie Plame scandal.

Yeah, Mier's withdrawal is bad news if you were looking for a moderate choice for the bench.

[Edited on October 27, 2005 at 6:08 PM. Reason : .]

10/27/2005 6:07:32 PM

Agreed. Bush took the damage and didn't accomplish what he wanted. How could it be a plan?

10/27/2005 6:26:26 PM

I think there's still a chance for a moderate choice.

10/27/2005 6:39:43 PM

I don't know what to think ... It was comforting to know that the conservatives hated her ... the question is who comes in now ...

10/27/2005 8:56:28 PM

She turned out to be a bad nominee.

Thankfully the weakly restated democratic talking points that permeate this thread are the voices of the usual discontent and banter that is expected when you're in the minority and out of power. Don't think for a minute that your defeated elected cronies have even an ounce of power to stop another real conservative from making the bench.

10/27/2005 9:57:52 PM

conservative action is persecuted and hindered by liberals conspiracy one moment

yet all-powerful and dominant the next

10/27/2005 10:05:11 PM

^^ There isn't gonna be a "strong" conservative nominee. That would mean for Bush to demonstrate his weakness. "First I nominated the girl next door cuz she likes me, then I got my ass whooped and had to reconsider." There ain't a chance he's gonna allow that. Then again I was positive Miers would get confirmed.

I think they'll find a moderate on the conservative side who the base will have no choice but embrace.

10/27/2005 10:50:57 PM

You guys don't get it. Harry Reid was the one who suggested to Bush that he nominate Miers, and look what happened.

The Republicans were fighting among themselves while the Democrats watched and were laughing up their collective sleeve.

It's basic divide and conquer.

[Edited on October 27, 2005 at 11:41 PM. Reason : It was especially effective as the nomination came on the heels of Katrina and cronyism.]

10/27/2005 11:38:27 PM

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"conservative action is persecuted and hindered by liberals conspiracy one moment yet all-powerful and dominant the next"

hahah *ding ding ding* we have a winner

Make up your minds, it's either one or the other. Sadly many of the GOP think it's both...

10/28/2005 7:57:30 AM

^^ Yeah, the traditional Democratic allies finally got smart and realized that if they just shut up, the Republicans would rip themselves apart. I'm hoping that this is a sign that the Democratic Party is finally instilling some discipline among its ranks and supporters.

10/28/2005 12:22:55 PM

The Miers nomination was one that was picked, in my opinion, from a position of weakness when Bush didn't have to go down that road. Conservatives got Bush elected for the very purpose of changing the current activist dictatorship that is being currently legislated from the bench. Miers' nomination made little sense because there are plenty of qualified justices that have demonstrated the fortitude to stick to a strict constitutionalist viewpoint.

10/28/2005 11:44:51 PM

A nomination that does not make sense from the point of view of the base does not mean weakness. If anything it actually implies a willingness to go against the core supporters which is, well... either stupidity or strength. Personally, I'd prefer a more prominent conservative judge. But I don't see how Bush could deliver that without turning himself into a complete laughing matter. Oh, wait...

10/29/2005 10:14:49 AM

She withdrew do to the strategery of the subliminable nucular threat.

10/29/2005 10:20:28 AM