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PackMan03
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I think there's an NL version already so I'm doing AL. Here are some of the candidates:

Nick Swisher .234 AVG, 64 R, 21 HR, 74 RBI, 0 SB
Robinson Cano .294 AVG, 77 R, 14 HR, 61 RBI, 1 SB
Tadahito Iguchi .278 AVG, 72 R, 14 HR, 68 RBI, 15 SB
Scott Kazmir 10 W, 3.77 ERA, 1.462 WHIP, 174 K
Gustavo Chacin 12 W, 3.82 ERA, 1.408 WHIP, 118 K
Huston Street 5 W, 1.63 ERA, .983 WHIP, 71 K, 22 S


My money is on Street. He's dominated since taking over for Dotel and has been Oakland's best pitcher this year.

9/30/2005 2:56:40 PM

rwoody
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tad

[Edited on September 30, 2005 at 2:57 PM. Reason : he might be the mvp for the sox]

9/30/2005 2:57:31 PM

Thecycle23
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In my extremely biased opinion, Robinson Cano.

9/30/2005 3:28:22 PM

Crede
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gooch

9/30/2005 3:43:19 PM

NyM410
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Quit being homers.

It's Huston Street. By a VERY WIDE margin.

FYI Scott Kazmir will be the best player out of all of them someday..

[Edited on September 30, 2005 at 3:45 PM. Reason : f]

9/30/2005 3:44:39 PM

Thecycle23
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Yes...all pinstripe-covered glasses aside.

I agree with you. Street.

9/30/2005 3:45:53 PM

john kruk
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Tad

9/30/2005 3:46:40 PM

TKE-Teg
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Aaron Small!!!!

I meant Wang!

[Edited on September 30, 2005 at 4:08 PM. Reason : ]

9/30/2005 3:54:55 PM

NyM410
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ahahahah.. you dolt..

Aaron Small has been in baseball since like '94 and been on like 10 teams.

Get off of my Internet!

9/30/2005 3:56:11 PM

TKE-Teg
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oh wait...shit!

9/30/2005 4:08:25 PM

Thecycle23
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Whenever I see you post, I read your name as Tikiteg.

9/30/2005 4:10:43 PM

PackMan03
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"Scott Kazmir will be the best player out of all of them someday"


I agree. But can someone explain to me how Tampa was able to get this guy for Victor Zambrano?????

9/30/2005 4:23:06 PM

NyM410
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Rick Peterson is an egotistical asshole. Duquette wasn't fit to be a ML GM. Wilpon is a drone who will listen to anything Rick Peterson says.

9/30/2005 4:23:59 PM

Wtbrowne32
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well that and the mets are one of the 5 worst run franchises in baseball

9/30/2005 10:45:05 PM

john kruk
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who are the other four?

10/1/2005 12:10:51 AM

Wtbrowne32
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in no particular order (just my opinion here)

Orioles - see below
Mets - mainly because they have the funds to put a winner on the field and never do and they are notorious for handing out outrageous contracts to average players (see Bobby Bonilla)
Royals
Pirates
Devil Rays

10/1/2005 12:55:44 AM

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Cano

10/1/2005 10:14:41 AM

NyM410
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^^ the Mets WERE. Omar Minaya is teh GM now and they fired their entire scout team. I think the days of the stupid signings are over. You can point to Beltran all you want but that WAS and IS a good signing despite one bad year.

They are pretty much mirroring the Braves right now. The second half of the year they have started 4-5 homegrown kids under 25 almost every game and balked at the chance to trade away prospects for aging superstars.

Also. I need to remind everyone that the Mets have won a pennant only 5 years ago. The Braves haven't even won one in that timespan..

10/1/2005 10:34:57 AM

BrickTop
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They may have won a pennant 5 years ago, but let's look more closely, shall we?

2004, 4th place NL east, 25 games back, only 4 games ahead of the Expos.
2003, Last place NL east, 34.5 games back (Expos were 18 back).
2002, Last place NL east, 26.5 games back .
2001, 3rd place NL east, only 6 games back, but then again, only 1 game over .500.

10/1/2005 11:50:45 AM

NyM410
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regardless. I already said that the old management is long gone. If you can't see a difference in how the team was handled this year then I can't help you..

I'm not trying to knock the Braves at all but the name of the game is winning championships. Their fans can take pride all you want in the 14 straight divisions because it is an amazing, amazing feat. That being said, that record is like kissing your sister if you only win ONE championship in that time..

[Edited on October 1, 2005 at 11:54 AM. Reason : f]

10/1/2005 11:53:34 AM

Crede
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For some reason I doubt a rookie closer is going to win the ROY....

10/1/2005 12:08:13 PM

BrickTop
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^^ok let's put this into perspective. we'll take those 14 years you just mentioned and compare the mets to the braves.

1991-2004
Braves:
1341-859 (0.610)
14 Division Pennants
4 NL Pennants
1 WS Pennant

Mets:
1064-1135 (0.484)
0 Division Pennants
2 NL Pennants
1 WS Pennant

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"Also. I need to remind everyoneNyM410 that the Mets have won a pennant only 5 years ago. The Braves haven't even won one are 276.5 games behind the Braves in that timespan. "


God, if that's like kissing your sister, I sure wish I had one.


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"the name of the game is winning championships"

somehow, the braves-mets totals in that period are eerily similar.

[Edited on October 1, 2005 at 12:28 PM. Reason : ]

10/1/2005 12:26:56 PM

NyM410
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I don't know what you're exactly trying to prove? I'm not arguing the Mets have been anywhere NEAR the team Atlanta has been. I'm simply saying their ownership has changed and the onfield product and offfield 'non' moves have showed that this year.

10/1/2005 12:39:33 PM

BrickTop
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i'm not necassarily trying to prove anything. but i'm not gonna let you make incestual remarks about my team when the mets don't have anything on atl.

10/1/2005 5:24:28 PM

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I'm really not trying to be argumentative, but I have serious doubts about the competency of Omar Minaya... remember this is the guy who really hurt the then Expos farm system during his first season on the job... he dealt away quality prospects to bring in Colon... who quickly exited.... then he traded a boat load of guys to the Marlins for Cliff Floyd, who was in Montreal for all of 3 weeks before Minaya traded him for pratically peanuts... I understand that the players Minaya traded away havent exactly produced as yet but they were all top caliber prospects when they were traded... see Justin Wayne, Brandon Phillips, et. al.

I agree that the Beltran signing will turn out good, but I cannot for the life of me understand how you justify giving Kris Benson that kind of contract

The Mets future is bright with kids like Wright and Reyes and a true ace in Pedro, but too many bad contracts like Floyd, Piazza, Matsui, Benson, Cameron, that is a lot of money for very little production even though Floyd had a decent year

And BTW, even though I detest the Braves I have to admit they are probably the best run organization in baseball



[Edited on October 1, 2005 at 8:54 PM. Reason : a]

10/1/2005 8:48:17 PM

john kruk
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it gets announced this evening

11/7/2005 1:40:04 PM

nrmiller
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Street definitely was the rightful winner, he was totally dominant

11/7/2005 5:21:18 PM

Crede
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gooch was robbed

na not really

fuck rookie closers though.. how long do closers' careers last?

11/7/2005 8:54:03 PM

packboozie
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^Well Todd Jones and Bob Wickman should this year they can last and they are both 35+.

11/7/2005 11:31:41 PM

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