emphasis on pussy liberal arts studies needs to be changed. All together - UC is an f'ing douchebag.It's Ben Stein's final column or something.
9/7/2005 3:26:29 AM
wtf does this have to do with "pussy liberal arts studies"? Are you implying that liberal arts schools and programs are constantly turning out these actors who then go on to make millions of $? 99.9% of the people coming out of acting and liberal arts schools will never make that kind of money - if they pursue acting or writing, they will struggle to get by, and more than likely end up going into another field. I bet a huge number of the people in hollywood never even went to college, having moved to NY or LA as soon after high school as possible, maybe attending some acting seminars, or studied in another field in college and did acting on the side.I agree with the article 100%, and fortunately for me, I realized this at a much younger age than Ben Stein apparently did. I do not think Hollywood actors and entertainers should be looked up to as stars or heros or anything of the sort. That is why I don't watch Entertainment Tonight or Access Hollywood or read People magazine, or watch the Oscars or Grammys or Emmys, etc (I think it's redonkulous that these people who have enough money to buy anything in the world they want have several nights dedicated to how "amazing" they are, topped off with little gold statues of naked people and complimentary gift bags worth $20k). I don't have a list of stars that I would do anything just to meet, or am even particularly interested in catching sight of these people first-hand. I think they are insanely overpaid considering the amount of work they do and they types of skills it involves. Although I must conceed that this is simply capitalistic supply and demand - they offer a service that millions of people are willing to pay to see, and therefore should be compensated for it. If it's not the actors raking in the millions of dollars us consumers are spending at the theaters, then it will be the studios that take all the money instead. If people were paid according to a combination of their value to society and the amount of manual or intellectual required for their jobs, then teachers, civil servants (police, fire, military), engineers, scientists, doctors (well..... they're already up there, but they perform invaluable services), nurses etc would be raking in the big bucks, and actors, singers, and entertainers would be at the bottom. But that's not how capitalism works, now is it? There are 10,000's of teachers in the country and each of them can only directly influence maybe at most 100 students per year, where as there is only a relative handfull of big-time actors, and they can reach millions of people each. Therefore, that's where the money goes. Sounds to me like the problem isn't our pussy liberal arts studies churning out actors, but rather our society's inexplicable desire to live vicariously through our "american idols".
9/7/2005 3:58:55 AM
supply and demand can be a bitch
9/7/2005 9:12:25 AM
I don't see how this has shit to do with Liberal Arts. ^^Ben Stein was also part of that group, so I think it would make it harder for him. I agree though, the fucking celebrity obsession makes me sick.
9/7/2005 9:40:58 AM
Ben Stein is definitely under-appreciated. Talk about an amazingly diverse and successful career.
9/7/2005 10:13:17 AM
i just like movies, is that so wrong?
9/7/2005 10:15:26 AM
i think he would rather be remembered/known as a writer, academic and intellectual than an actor, comedian or entertainer.
9/7/2005 10:16:10 AM
this article brings moisture to my dry scratchy eyes....wooooow.
9/7/2005 10:24:44 AM
^^^ YOU HATE FREEDOM!!![Edited on September 7, 2005 at 10:25 AM. Reason : .]
9/7/2005 10:25:06 AM
yet another unfunny thread by UberComedian
9/7/2005 10:15:31 PM
9/7/2005 10:21:43 PM
I'd like to know where he performs so I can constantly boo him.
9/7/2005 10:41:16 PM
...So ... what is the title of this essay? "Ben Stein is a Communist?" It's funny how the lines blur at the edges, eh?I think he's spent too much time drinking his own Kool-Aid.Soldiers die for their country; they don't die for soldier-dom. They don't die so more young Americans can grow up and fight in wars. The firemen who ran up the stairs at the WTC didn't die so that more firemen after them could do the same.Teachers in civil society don't teach so that every one of their pupils can grow up to be teachers.Ben Stein is hopelessly confusing the means with the ends. The end of civil service, is civil society. A capitalist, civil society is one where people aspire to a peaceful, affluent (yes, even materialistic) life. Celebrities represent the highest-end of that goal, and are entertaining to boot, and therefore they are idols.Plus he's insulting to the servicemen who die, and who are not in fact "anonymous." I think it's fair to say that their deaths have more impact on their communities than, say, the average celebrity. He's, quite ironically, just using their sacrifices to make his point.
9/8/2005 7:38:32 AM